What 'a f++king dreamer!

What was your question or objection?

ALL IS ENERGY.

Is there no free press in your country? Public intellectuals? Do you hear anything of what the rest of the world says, the global community? It is rather obvious in this thread the party line is being towed. There is America and the bad guys---- good grief!!

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RIGHT, and seven more countries just joined the BRICS fraud January 1, with a long list of countries waiting their turn. Wake up to your own propaganda.

Think! Why are not these nations of the East ever so grateful? America is so caring, they just want everyone to be free, don't they? Even your own history used to indoctrinate is a fanciful mythology. America needs to become a civil global citizen; the rest of the world knows you are not.

Yes, because America is a pig, more powerful than the Third Reich ever dreamt of being, and the world is tired of America's abuse. America and Europe still have a colonial mentality, and America is rat shit crazy to dominate. Today is wakeup time, the world is changing.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=how+many+european+countries+presently+have+american+nuclear+weapons+on+the+soil%3F&cvid=52383133204c458cb59f3c182cf7ca14&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTYzNTg3ajBqNKgCALACAA&FORM=ANAB01&PC=ACTS

The world is moving to a multipolar world, removing the American boot from their necks, soon it will become obvious to you as well.

BRICS has no common currency because it is a collective, free of the America dollar, the America dollar has been used brutally to wage economic war on weaker countries. The Chinese currency is based on gold, not sure if that is true across the board. The whole idea of the BRICS movement is to move from a unitary global power/America to a multipolar world, as is happening as we speak. Think about it, all the while the States has been subjugating if not destroying other countries' economies with their economic and military might, these people have been preparing for the day they can get the American boot off their necks. Most people in this thread don't seem to have a source of information about what is happening in the here and now. Has the States banned TICK TOCK, silencing the opposition, what about American public intellectuals are they silenced as well? I mentioned that as of January 1st, seven more countries have joined the BRICS, and there is a long list of countries waiting their turn. Most people here seem utterly unaware of this. It really seems like a simplistic dialogue, Americans wearing the white hats the Russians wearing the black hats---that is frustrating! The ignorance is so overwhelming. I am going to bow out. Do you people have a press that is entirely corporate owed? Frightening!!

Passive-aggressive asshole that you are!

FUCK YOU SHAKESPEAR!

Ok, maybe I am not that articulate, just curious, do you know what the BRICS is? Do you know that there is a global shift of power going on. This shifting power makes America a very unhappy camper. I was just replying to someone else here, who had no idea what was happening. Is that the common experience here? The BRICS is a very powerful movement and challenging the America dollar with a currency of their own. This movement is growing, six to seven new member countries joined on January 1, and there is a long list of countries waiting to join. Just wondering if this is common here, I mean not knowing what is going on. If so, little wonder I hit a brick wall, no pun intended. -- lol!

Wow! You are so incrediably out of touch. The BRICS is a very powerful movement, challenging the America dollar, and has set up it own currency. Seven more countries just join the BRICS on January first. America has been making economic warfare on Russia for quite some time, to no avail, they were ready for it, and their economy is doing better than that of the States. There is a global shift in power occurring and America is not a happy camper. The world is trying to move away from America as a unipolar power to that of a multipolar world. It is the colonial West against its former colonies and those it otherwise wishes to subjugate. Does nobody here no what is going on? No wonder I hit a brick wall. As I stated, there are about six or seven new members as of January 1st, and a very long list of those who wish to join. So, best catch up on the global news! Oh wait, Yanks still believe they have a free press, I am thinking there may be a very good reason American citizens are not in the loop. America the beautiful ----lol!!

What is my claim that is so easily proven wrong, please enlighten me.

Regarding getting stoned, one should not really have a passionate opinion on something one has never tried. As far as your understanding of energy goes, you need to read some more science. You are not just contradicting me, SO RUDE --lol!! You are contradicting the science of physics.

Hi Jorndoe,

I take it you believe that you live in a democracy, your American, right? You believe the president that the people elect runs the country, the president answers to no higher power? It is time for an evolutionary change, people have the right to have the government they choose, and if you believe the above, you're just a product of the powers that really do run the country. That way they get to stay in the shadows, and your entertained by the two-party system. Speaking of dictatorships, what do you think America has been doing globally, was there ever a kinder country-- lol!! Your countries cottage industry is making war, overt and covert, that's real violence. America has been making economic war on Cuba for over sixty years. The United Nations took a vote on ending the American blockade, and all almost unanimously voted on ending it, except for two votes, America and Israel.

The rest of the world does not see your country as you do, it has been a blight on humanity since World War Two. The BRICS is an alternative to the mindset of colonial thinking, and has the support basically of the entire Eastern hemisphere, they want a multipolar world not a unipolar world with America dictating, subjugating and enslaving weaker countries. Much is done overtly and covertly including merciless economic warfare. The world has had enough, and they are drawing a line in the sand. While America has been bullying with it superpower, its super military encircling China with military bases, that other part of the world has been preparing, and that my friend is the summation of their preparation, it is TODAY. If the general belief across the board here is that America is a virtuous democracy, I am probably not up to making any headway here.

THE BRICS FOREVER, THE END OF COLONIALISM!

You have a combination of ignorance and arrogance which if common enough is a threat to us all. Do you read, or have you read any recent history of how this situation developed? If you want to know about European countries with American nuclear weapons do some more googling. Tell me how this came to be, I am all ears. As to the faulty logic, Ukraine was not yet in NATO, and had not acquired hopefully American nuclear weapons, but that was to come. Americans have the white hats, and the evil Russians have the black hats, how can one get confused!

You've never been stoned, have you? My point has been that apparent reality is biologically dependent. Why on earth if all is energy, frequencies, and vibrations, and we have the examples of there not being any color or sound in the real world, do we assume that objects are any different than sound or color? It is all energy, what makes objects manifest?

You truly are naive! There are at least one hundred nuclear weapons, American weapons, in about five different NATO countries, it has been said that Ukraine already has some, a least tactical nuclear weapons. What the fuck do you think this is all about? NATO is on Russia's border; Russia is not on NATO'S border. The world is changing, and you're on the wrong side of history. Watch it unfold, even if you cannot presently grasp it.

https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/nato-nuclear-disarmament/

Only the blind cannot see the evil of America and Israel at this time, can you not afford a white cane.

Excellent advice. The point was however, that to alter one's reality one need only alter one's biology, different biologizes different realities.

This is a good case of the value of defining one's terms, freedom is a difficult one. Religion is invested in the concept of free will, its whole existence depends upon it, where would it be without SIN? In simpler times one can see where it might not be questioned; but, knowledge in general has exploded, as has the knowledge of our place in the universe. So, with the understanding of the absence of free will comes the knowledge that all life forms are reactive creatures, basically ungoverned by free will. This wreaks havoc with religion and the legal system, but it should not, we still need to protect society and the population from those who are a danger to both.

Religion, well, there is little to no hope for traditional religions particularly of the West. Political freedom is understandable with or without free will, we just do not want to be oppressed and abused by others. Perhaps we might replace religion and free will with rationality, the direr enemy of religion, again, Western religions. In the absence of free will one is in touch with the proper way of being in the world. The world being the cause of all our reactions, and in turn our reactions become the causes of change in the world. One way or another one is subjugated by nature and/or human societies, for autonomy and morality are mutually exclusive.

Any measure you could speak of is a meaning, and all meaning is created and the property of a conscious subject, and/or collectives of conscious subjects. Measures and meanings are not lying around on the ground of an orchard like so many fallen apples. The source is subjective consciousness in its individual form or its collective. Perhaps, I am missing something here in your objection, please enlighten me.

EXCELLENT POST!

My knowledge is limited, but you used Ukraine as an example of the bad deeds of Russia, which couldn't be further off the mark. NATO is America's puppet, and Ukraine is America's proxy for making war on Russia. In America's desire for world domination Russia and China, the BRICS and I hope soon the entire Eastern hemisphere is what stands in America's way. America has already usurped the sovereignty of the countries of Europe when they placed nuclear warheads on their soils, American nuclear warheads. America is, and has been the only superpower for some time, and has been a brutal and cruel master globally. The Eastern hemisphere, basically the history of European colonies, are tired of being kept poor, and brutalized in the process. They desire to see a multipolar world, not one governed by colonialists of the West. Colonialism did not die with the British Empire; it just changed hands, and became an American tradition, more brutal than their British predecessors. If this is what you are rooting for, you are on the wrong side of history. All the while America has been using its awesome military to intimidate and crush weaker countries by making economic warfare on them, these countries have been preparing to meet the challenge of their brutal master, and today is the day. American propaganda is masterly, particularly effective on its own population, but the world at large knows America for the beast it is in its blood-drenched history. So again, you are on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of a better world.

Thanks Lionino, don't be a stranger!!

One just has to realize that if all there is energy, where do all these THINGS come from, there must be something happening here. There in fact is no separation between subject and object, it is only in our attempts to understand our reality, that we talk as if there was a separation. Relativity, and relationship make it one, and reaction is the process of belonging, to being the world, not being of it. I do not try to do without things, just trying to explain how they come about in a greater reality of energies representing no things, ultimate reality. Apparent reality, our everyday reality, is a biological readout, apparent reality is how energies alter our biology to give us experience, meanings and knowledge. Meanings are the understandings of our altered biologizes relative to our survival and general well-being. Apparent reality, our everyday reality, is a bit like life's dream world and particular to life itself.

Try to get beyond text book definitions sometimes, all energy is in motion, all things have frequencies and vibrations. Tesla, " If you wish to understand reality, think in terms of energy, frequencies and vibrations." That is not what biology means you say, but, biology like everything else is energy. There are a great many energy forms we do not experience, our biological senses both enable and limit our conscious experience of all energies. Thanks for the reference materials.

Biology is an energy form, a form that recognizes other energy formations, through being altered by those energy forms. We do not experience many energy forms, or at least we are not conscious of them, though they may affect us in ways unknown. Just as there are no colors or sounds in the real world, so too, there are no objects in the real world, simply energies in the forms of frequencies and vibrations. Apparent reality is the experience of biology, a melody played upon biology by the energies that surround us, a melody only life forms hear/see. Experience is meaning, and the property of the biological subjects, it is never the property of the object energy form. The conscious subject then bestows his/her meanings upon a meaningless world, through its biological readout, its reactions to these energies is precisely what meanings are. Biology/body is a thing, but the mind is not, and you experience your body as an object in the physical world the same way you experience all objects in the physical world. It is a bit like a dream world, a biological simulation, a biological readout, it is not delusion it is the biological reaction the experience of being altered by energies. Only in what is called apparent has things/objects, through biological readout of one's altered biology. What is called ultimate reality is a place of energy, a place of nothing--no-things.

The fetus in the womb is a functional part of the mother, its environment like other aspects of the mother's biology is relative to the whole/ the mother. The fetus is not an independent entity, it's experience is being part of the mother and being nurtured as part of the mother. Do the organs of the mothers body have identity, perhaps, in which case so would the fetus, but what would that identity be, if not in its context, the mother? You stated, an infant experiences as soon as it is born, true, but what is it experiencing, it is experiencing its context, and context defines, experience of context gives identity. The distinction of consciousness and the state of it before birth is just a different context, the mother, and again context defines, what it was before birth, is its mother.

I have myself experienced life without identity/memory for brief but repeated intervals; which only means the absence of the knowledge of context. There is something, however, in just the experience of being alive, one is vitally alive, and one is a naked I, that which experiences, there is a brief sense of relief in not knowing who you are, that you do not realize until the memory thus the context and definition of you comes flooding back into your consciousness. Being without memory simply restarts a process of identity formation if the previous life experience is lost forever, what is the song, " We are the world?", for the world is our greater context.

In the absence of a conscious subject there is no world, as there is no subject. The world is subject and object in relation, experienced as meanings to the biological subject. Meaning is never the property of the object/energy, it is the property of a conscious subject only, which the subject then bestows on a meaningless world, thus giving it meaning significance. Apparent reality is a biological readout, a biological simulation, we do not experience what is, we experience the effects of what is on our altered biological natures.

Think of the philosophical quote that subject and object stands or falls together, which means that apparent reality is dependent on the relationship between them. Energy in the forms of frequencies and vibrations processed through a biological subject produces apparent reality, for the subject is not the energies, which are now manifested as objects in the dream world of biology. If you wish to experience a different world, simply alter your biological nature, perhaps with drugs and/or meditation. In the absence of a conscious subject, nothing can be known, nothing is experienced, and the apparent world is biological reaction dependent.

For a biological entity there are things in its apparent reality, but apparent reality is an emergent manifestation particular to that biology. If you wish to experience a different reality alter your biology. The world, the cosmos plays biological life as its instrument, and the melody played on this instrument is apparent reality. So, for life forms there are things, but in ultimate reality there are no things, things/objects are biologically dependent. As Tesla is famous for saying if you wish to understand the world, think in terms of energy, frequencies, and vibrations. Apparent reality is emergent in this sense, its composition is the reactions of biological consciousness to these energy frequencies and vibrations. It is not unlike a dream world, a world relative to life's biological nature. People talk sometimes of the possibility that life lives in a simulation this is correct, its own simulation, biological reaction is how we are the world.

Life is like a box of chocolates isn't it Echarmion ? You've got real depth of understanding, it's bloody overwhelming. You really should be ashamed, can't do that, I'll be embarrassed for you.

So, in a nutshell, that is the sum of your understanding. Russia invaded Ukraine, and you are quite happy with that profound understanding are you. Well, it is simple I will give you that, and extremely moronic.

I think your just being an asshole, the recorded history is there to read, very very hard not to understand what is going on, but you manage don't you.

It is recorded history, it all started with the reunification of Germany and America's promise to Russia that NATO would not move one inch towards the Russian border. It is not propaganda, its recorded history. The Russians are not the bad guys here, they are just interested in protecting their sovereignty, it comes down to everyone having a right to protect themselves from outside aggression.

I could not agree more, but then colonialism has never ceased to exist, the Americans just took over from the British. This is really what it is all about, the former colonial countries still do not wish to give up their economic colonies, and America still wants to govern the world.

The modern physics tells us that all there is energy, Tesla agree whole heartedly. So, if all there is, is energy then there are no things. There are only things for biology, experiencing these energies and processing them biologically gives one a world of objects, an apparent reality. This by the analogy of a melody is heard only by the subject consciousness, it is real to biological life, but it is just energy. The place is the world, a world devoid of objects in the absence of a conscious subject. This is why I say, there is no such thing as something being objective, think of apparent reality as a biological projection, a biological readout.