You dont think adult should have the right to die if they want?

Not anymore, i have decided that it is enough for me.

Im alive because suicide isnt that easy.

Burning alive? You dont survive that or long.

Exactly, im not grateful for that, because if i would not be alive, i would not suffer.

And your opinion does matter then? If no opinion matters, there would be no such thing as philosophy.

And grateful for what exactly?

I simply think it is immoral to knowingly create more life, therefore more suffering.

Not for everyone maybe, but for many it actually does.

You dont understand, antinatalists are against existence because existence means suffering. You cant deny that.

No, everyone will suffer in life. Some people suffer more, others less. But suffering is invetiable, and certainly not a choice.

Actually, there are more poor people than rich people. And everyone can become potentially poor, and disabled, or sick.

Yes, suffering is always bad, obvously.

There are many, many people who are extremely impoverished in the world. It may get better, but its still pretty bad.

But life is pretty bad, actually. Especially if youre poor and sick.

Even if you are born in great wealth, and with good health. Life ist still full of suffering. Altough, of course it is less suffering than being born poor, and disabled.

We all could become disabled in life, horrible Ill, or just experience poverty, and many more bad things.

Even natalists cant deny that life is full of suffering.

Why should antinatalism be evil? It ist voluntary, we dont force people to be antinatalistic.

Youre not nearly as smart, as you think you are. You should learn some humility.

Lets be honest, if youre not born extremely rich, and with amazing genes, life will suck, but even then, you can suffer greatly in life. Life is not a gift, nor is life beautiful. Otherwise there would be much less, or no suffering.

So i assume you like to suffer? Or why so you think we do not need to reduce suffering?

I think it is very important to decrease suffering. I think suffering is not something valuable. The less suffering in the world, the better.

Maybe, but some values are certainly more useful than others.

I assume youre a nihilist?

Its not rational to avoid suffering?

I dont get it why so many people are offended by antinatalism. Because it is the only rational conclusion. Because life is full of horrible things. And the beautiful things in life are less frequent than suffering.

Well many people said it was

Well slavery was morally right in the past Now its horrible. So Morals be quite Subjective.

Well the truth ist Humans are never completely rational. Otherwise wenn would not so so many irrational things.

I do not think life is precious at all. Now that might be controversial, but life is cheap in nature. Its not politically correct, but it is the truth. Of course, murder is still morally wrong.

And making suicide harder only decrease it marginally.

Because suicide like train suicide not only hurts the suicidal Person.

Philosophy is about opinions and can be subjective, otherwise we would come to the same conclusion.

And there is no guarantee that life will always stay good if it is good. No guarantee that it gets better either. I think it is simply too risky to have children.

. This May be true, but many people say theyre ok when they are actually not, often due to peer pressure.

The truth is that you will suffer in life, some people more than others. Happiness on the other hand ist not guaranteed.

Maybe it could decrease unecessary tragic suicides of older people?

Yet there are many pro life organization who are completely against it, under any circumstances. Even for the terminally Ill who want to die. Of course it has to be strictly regulated.