What proof is there of 1/Pi…creating irrational diameter ?

Mathematically speaking ?

But the diameter is a straight line…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diameter

Not necessarily implied that lines makes circles but that a line with irrational extension would snake its way when drawn.

Yes of course, sauce ?

I’ve been accused of being drunk but also sexy on occasion…what am I to do @Hanover

Depends on the transmission of values in my eyes, however humanity always accepts that those ideals can be misguided by various reasons such as selfishness, the intervention of aliens as @BC rightfully commented

I'll head down to the Kremlin later and have a word. — Jamal

Just give me a rifle and I will go and shoot the wanker between the eyes and walk out unscathed.

Putting up the price of beer, I will never forgive that

Now then many have tried and many have failed in declaring pi as non-infinite…any other takers?

The former, yes, the latter no. — Christoffer

I take this as an admission then that pi goes on forever. Finally

Be warned those who wish to lower Pi’s status from infinite to cardinal, for ye shall perish in such attempts

Me or you now I’m unclear which one of us is doing this fallacy, it must be you as my claim is rather simple that Pi goes on forever therefore infinite.

@Banno

What’s your problem ?

I shallhence be known as the defender of Pi, a crusader in defence of an irrational number.

At all costs

I don’t really care much what denotes what in mathematics but I do know that pi’s expansion goes on infinitely, hence me declaring it infinite.

I still don’t see how or even why you’d object to that.

If you profess some knowledge of Mathematics then you’re clearly unaware of this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncountable_set

So Pi goes on infinitely buts it’s not infinite, whatever dude.

Usually if my point can’t be fully defended but some aspects can then I bail out, or go Bailey and concede partially.

I would never concede for lack of the other party’s inability to understand.

If they strawman, I point it out but don’t engage, maybe they’re just baiting you lol

If upon making a claim that you know you won’t fully defend then give such concessions at the start of the argument.

Here’s a tip, you ever feel unwitty simply read a bit of witty.

First of all that infinite sign that you’ve put there the sideways 8 is a distorted circle, but a circle nonetheless.

Secondly do you deny that Pi goes on forever ? If you deny such a fact and don’t believe that Pi goes on forever then you’re as badly mistaken as Banno I’m afraid.

@Christoffer

I think I might have a bit of pie, would you like a spoonful Banno or would you like a whole slice. @Banno

Well thank you for that :rofl: pi is not infinite apparently according to Banno, geez!

@Banno anyway we seem to be going in circles. Or perhaps we’re walking in Pies

They’re one and the same, or at least our closest understanding and interpretation of infinity. Neatly summed up and expressed by

Pi is clear as day to me, let the below image remind you again. Read @sime’s post

But that does not make it infinite — Banno

Surely you’re winding me up, but I’m not laughing … Pi is serious business

You persist with this crap, that’s a formula of Pi.

Please paste below the infinite non-repeating sequence of Pi

Pi is not a circle — Banno

Of course it’s a circle what is the value of the line when you’ve performed the calculation circumference/diameter…it’s Pi of course.

Pi is exactly the ratio of circumference to diameter. It is not infinite — Banno

Ok then mister, please give me the exact value of Pi :rofl:

Of course it’s a circle, even though the approximate value is derived from circumference/diameter

if it’s not infinity why haven’t we been able to calculate it’s finite value.

The fact that PI remaining abstract yet embedded, but not fully, by fact of impossibility in the real world in the form of the circle highlights a very profound idea of such an abstraction namely that of a never ending non-repeating number.

In a sense, whilst Pi was known to the Greeks, it is actually a Greek letter in their alphabet, they never truly realised the implications of such a number, even Archimedean approaches never went more than two decimal places, so it’s real infinite nature was not readily apparent.

Though PI itself remaining an abstract with imperfect manifestation of itself in the form of a circle perhaps only comes to our understanding by fact of producing the approximation of such a shape.

PI even has a starting value. 3.14 somewhat implying that if it does have a starting value does infinity too?

I believe, again, that this line of reasoning is incorrect, even though by granting it such a concrete starting value (which is always an approximation), by the fact that this value itself never finishes, let’s it remain in the realm of the abstract and pure mathematics.

A circle is a very close approximation of Pi which is infinity itself.

It doesn’t exist in the real world by the fact that in its close approximation it comes in on itself demonstrates the circularity of such an infinity.

@Tom Storm I think you’re equating indoctrination to ideology in your summary of what it means to be religious . And whilst that may be true of any religion it could also be true of atheists in their every day beliefs about the world.

But yes even as a Christian I’m not dogmatic. But there is a sense of zeal when it comes to knocking down someone’s beliefs. It’s called intolerance.

In this sense prosecuting someone for their beliefs highlights immaturity.

By all means question or be sceptical of idea such as god, but to knock it down altogether is to remain ever in infancy.

equivocation of necessity to possibility.

It’s like saying it’s possible that my next coin flip will be tail. So if I do flip it it will be tails. (By necessity)

I call bullshit on this badly constructed argument (Cosmological, Kalam, Contingent), it should go more like this.

Firstly it over complicates things, if cat, fish, dog is impossible (non-existent) then by fact of existence cat, fish, dog exist then cat, fish, dog exist.

Where does contingency come into it ?

On the subject of words my favourite has always been defenestration but don’t confuse it with deforestation though it’s easy to do.

Dyslexic or not

I can enunciate it in my head perfectly fine mister, but I won’t impress no one, not even the nerdiest bookworm with cute glasses.

Everyone wants to understand consciousness yet no one wants to understand drunk consciousness.

Anyone heard of Diogenes ?

You’re saying im being irrational just like Pi. If pi was rational and predictable yet infinate would it not make a linear straight line rather than a circle ?

Point being, even Isolating Pi to 3 decimal places could you draw a non-perfect circle ?

I don’t blame you Banno, where did this infinite irrational Pi come from, it’s definitely not something physical as a how could a perfect circle exist in the physical world when it can’t be drawn, a perfect circle is only abstract and unable to be represented or drawn because Pi is non-repeating and goes on forever

Is it not purely abstract?