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  • Circular time. What can it mean?
    What do they mean?TiredThinker

    Spiritually speaking, it implies that everything is a waveform. Everything that goes up, must come down.
  • The ineffable
    Of course Dennett does not champion qualia. I think the term is OK as long as it remains as a mere synonym for "quality of experience".Janus

    I have always viewed the term "qualia" as meaning "the stuff of experience", rather than a description of a subjective experience. Do you think we're both talking about the same thing?
  • Questioning Rationality
    Also, I don't think thinking is strategic. I'm not even sure what that means. Certainly a lot of our thinking is not goal oriented.T Clark

    Thinking, from the perspective of an individual is (IMO) almost always strategic and goal driven. Perhaps the objective(s) of the thinking being done aren't always about outer world goals, or immediate ones for that matter. I tend to view the mind (and the associated thinking, however seemingly mundane or counterproductive) as being more of a long-term planning module within the human apparatus.
  • Is it ethical for technological automation to be stunted, in order to preserve jobs?
    The question could have been couched in more general terms. I would say the question is, Do some technologies have negative impacts on society at large? The answer to this question is yes. In which case those technologies need to be regulated. And yes the case you put is a good example.Pantagruel

    You make some great points here. I appreciate your comment.

    There are indeed some technologies that have a negative impact on society. And those technologies should indeed be regulated. As to whether automation is detrimental to society, the answer depends on where one is stationed.
  • Value of human identity and DNA.
    What do you mean by transhumanism?TiredThinker

    Transhumanism is of interest to me, so I can provide you with a simple definition and some links to visit, if you're wanting to dive down that rabbit hole. Okay, the word "Transhumanism" (according to this website) is,

    ... a class of philosophies of life that seek the continuation and acceleration of the evolution of intelligent life beyond its currently human form and human limitations by means of science and technology, guided by life-promoting principles and values.

    This is to say that Transhumanism is "applied extropy". With entropy as its opposite. The world's Transhumanists are working with emerging technologies to inspire the next stage of human evolution; it's pretty much that simple.

    If you would like to learn more about Transhumanism, I would recommend visiting H+Pedia (which I help maintain), r/Transhumanism on Reddit and this Wikipedia article.
  • The ultimate significance of "Thus Spoke Zarathustra", and most of Friedrich Nietzsche's other books
    The only growth here is a kind of self-diversification.Joshs

    Well said. Your comments reminds me of the Chaos Magick mindset, of adopting paradigms and belief systems at will; but only for as long as it (in the sense of a tool, such as a computer) is useful to the individual. That is a sort of delightful self-overcoming which is also difficult to properly represent, as well as being an example of practicing Will to Power.

    Speaking of which and along similar lines, the Will to Power framework that runs throughout "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" is similar to one's True Will, as found mentioned in Thelema. In this case, the uniting factor between Will to Power and True Will seems to be "working towards an individual's highest good, or grandest destiny".

    You also make excellent points about not underestimating or misrepresenting FN's work as a writer and philosopher. I am new to Nietzsche and have only recently begun to digest what he has to share. I'm looking forward to doing more reading on the subject.
  • On Thoughts as Pre-Existent
    If a thought can be destroyed, then perhaps Shakespeare did create the play Macbeth. But if we find it difficult to imagine utterly destroying a thought, then perhaps we’ll also find it difficult to believe that a mere human could create an eternal, indestructible thought, or the sequence of thoughts and images which constitute the play Macbeth.Art48

    As to whether a thought can be destroyed, I do not assume that it can. I base this statement on a sort of "living Universe" paradigm, a sort of Animistic perspective. Wherein thoughts are similar to living creatures, but of an "energetic" kind. Implying that (to some degree) the brain is a receiver. This also implies that thoughts can never be created or destroyed, only transformed.
  • Historical Forms of Energy
    Like from the eighteenth century onward, there seemed to be this conception that energy represented something an object possessed – as a person possesses physical energy, or a ball has energy when airborne – and at some point when theory about light, electricity, time, and space, began to predominate over simple mechanics it seemed that a transition took place from energy being thought of as a property of an object into it being thought of as an abstract entity itself that could be part of a wave or motion between atoms; something that could be harnessed and stored.

    I find it interesting from the point of view of how the conceptual landscape has changed along with this change. What kind of ways has the same shape been observed in other forms of everyday life in Western culture? Do you think there were any ways in which this may have influenced our way of thinking?
    kudos

    Western humanity has (for many hundreds, perhaps thousands, of years) thought or conceived of energy as being something that could be harnessed; but those were concepts previously understood by only a few, more well-studied individuals. You could say that what changed were these "new thoughts" becoming more commonplace within society, with the physical objects (such as the electric light bulb) acting as "proof" for the everyday person.
  • What motivates the neo-Luddite worldview?
    The other purpose for the quote was to demonstrate the power of technology to enable the individual. That is to say, the text that I shared was from an Artificial Intelligence that I'm experimenting with to generate novelty in my "life" or "work".

    The quote/story that I shared was generated by a GTP-3 AI-powered tool that has a public facing UI. It's can be found here.
  • What motivates the neo-Luddite worldview?
    Was the story meant to show that being a neo-luddite is an untenable position?Bylaw

    Essentially, yes; alongside another purpose.
  • What motivates the neo-Luddite worldview?
    Ah... but what precisely does it mean 'to keep up'?Tom Storm

    That's a great question. Perhaps it means to "remain relevant"?
  • What motivates the neo-Luddite worldview?
    I sat at my desk, looking at the new computer that had been delivered that morning. I had been a neo-luddite for years, but my work required me to use the latest technology. I was a philosophy professor, and I liked to think that I was above such things. But the truth was, I was struggling to keep up with my students.
  • Philosophical AI
    The question is how do we render the abstract (ideas) concrete (images)?Agent Smith

    By feeding them everything we can create! Those machines are hungry.
  • Philosophical AI
    AI is good at picking up patterns in images and also sounds too. We need to translate concepts/ideas/theories/whathaveyous into images/sounds, this is the hard part, and then let AI do its thing, this is the easy part.Agent Smith

    This is along the lines of how I assume Artificial Intelligence will be useful in the world of understanding the big picture questions; AI can collate unimaginably large pools of data and find the common (even outlying) patterns therein. This is, in my opinion, a asset tool to gain access to. For a lot of reasons.
  • Philosophical AI
    ...anything that looks ‘new’ is simply due to the reader’s interpretation.I like sushi

    What makes this any different from how philosophy is "done" among humans?

    It would be interesting to see several AI ‘philosophers’ tackle a problem and see how well they are able to use all the philosophical works ever written to counter each others points.I like sushi

    This would indeed be interesting. I'll wager that accomplishing such a showcase wouldn't be too difficult.
  • Western Classical v Eastern Mystical
    Which system do you believe ‘pierces the veil’ better in understanding the mystery of the purpose of living for a 20th Century human?David S

    In my opinion, the twentieth century individual is well-served to study both and ultimately synthesize a union between the two. Please keep in mind, that I'm not an expert in either system. But from the studies and practices of philosophy and mysticism that I have engaged in/with, I've found myself with a much deeper sense of respect and awe for this reality by pulling from Eastern and Western systems simultaneously; thereby bringing those contemplations into harmony with each other.
  • Most Important Problem Facing Humanity, Revisited
    But it's not due to the lack of their own inner awareness. It is due to their abhorrence over the apparent pretension associated to things that people say who talk about "Inner awareness".god must be atheist

    It seems we disagree here. I put credence in the notion that some folks don't value inner-sight; or don't value training their latent inwards-looking understanding. It's a conclusion that I've come to over the years of looking for a community that exudes an inner sense of awareness and competence, while being able to find only a few such groups.

    But, I could be wrong! How I plead to be so.
  • Most Important Problem Facing Humanity, Revisited
    Personally, I don't know any humans who lack inner awareness. It is indeed hard even to imagine a human without inner awareness.

    I don't think this is a major problem, because it is simply isn't so.
    god must be atheist

    I know plenty of people who recoil in absolute horror when even a mention of "inner awareness" is uttered.
  • Thought Detox


    Sure does. Great quotes.
  • Thought Detox


    These are interesting points.

    I'd like to think that the answer here is a balance (as @Agent Smith has illustrated in a previous comment) between thinking, feeling and doing. Thereby encouraging regular fasting, even if for only a short period of time, for/from each of these modes.
  • What motivates the neo-Luddite worldview?
    So, it seems to me there is a broad range of positions that some will call neo-luddite, which nevertheless are not against all technology. Sometimes people will get labelled luddites, sometimes they will even name themselves that way. But likely most of them lie on a spectrum.Bylaw

    It would be interesting to map this spectrum out, and to see where, how and why certain ideologies exist within it. I had never really considered the neo-Luddite label to be much of a spectrum; but I guess most of reality isn't so black and white.
  • What motivates the neo-Luddite worldview?
    Thank you to everyone for your responses. They are all quite thought-provoking. I'm also grateful for the responses to the poll that was posted in association with this thread.

    I have much to think about, and look forward to additional dialogue.
  • Lucid Dreaming
    Lucid dreaming is a phenomenon that I want to analyze. What are your thoughts about it?Shawn

    I have naturally occurring lucid dreams every night; they're like movies, they are movies, inside my head.
  • Most Important Problem Facing Humanity, Revisited


    That's a great question. I do. But, as with everything right now, all energies are expanding or growing in intensity. This includes the unwillingness to to look inside one's self.
  • Most Important Problem Facing Humanity, Revisited
    Expand & Elaborate ... please.Agent Smith

    In order to keep things soft, sweet and simple, I will say that once one gains a strong inner awareness, one is compelled to truly feel the shared implications of one's actions and thoughts and feelings. This empathy, that comes from opening inner space to observation and awareness, is the gift (as well as building block) that eventually leads to a new world.
  • A 'New' Bill of Rights


    Thank you Mr. Katz, I appreciate that feedback and well-wishing. I feel I am on a positive course in my life, which is the result of being open to comments and work(s) such as yours.
  • Could we be living in a simulation?
    It was after reading a book titled "The Simulation Hypothesis", that I started giving credence to the notion that we might probably be collectively (and individually) living in a simulation. It is also important to note that the word "simulation" might be insufficient to describe the true nature of this hallucination. Words such as hologram and/or memetic might be more appropriate.
  • Most Important Problem Facing Humanity, Revisited
    From where I'm sitting, the most important "problem" facing humanity is a lack of inner awareness.
  • A 'New' Bill of Rights


    Thank you for the links. I have downloaded "The Structure Of Ethics" PDF, and will read through it now. I am definitely open to learning more about this line of thinking. So, I appreciate your guidance on doing just that.
  • A 'New' Bill of Rights
    A good government is one that continuously improves the quality-of-life of its citizens.Marvin Katz

    IMO, a "good government" is one that enables its citizens to improve their own quality of life, as well as the lives of those around them; in a sort of volunteerism sense. A "good government" is not in charge of that process, but ensures that the ability to self-actualize is protected, made possible and sacred.

    I personally agree with the sentiment(s) of your post. But I'd like to see more of a focus on encouraging individuals to create their own realities, for themselves. That is (in my estimation) what a "good government" is empowered to do.
  • Against “is”
    I once wrote a book mostly in E-Prime. It’s available for free reading and download at ScienceAsNaturalTheology.orgArt48

    This looks like an interesting read. I will give it a go. Thank you for the link, and the effort it must have taken to put this together.
  • Authenticity and Identity: What Does it Mean to Find One's 'True' Self?


    I think mindfulness is the optimum state of mind.

    Agreed. Mindfulness is the source of peace that so many struggle to find otherwise.
  • The End of the Mechanistic Worldview


    We can see it as an intersection both disciplines, indeed. But sooner or later you would need to pick one or other. Mysticism stills lack of demonstrative practices. It is good to debate about some theories related to knowledge and how the world should works but we need to put them in practice or at least show it both empirically and physically.

    I can understand where you're coming from, at least I assume I do. But what seems to be missing from your response is an appreciation for how mysticism already plays an integral part in modern science. From the periodic table to the speed of light to the discovery of the shape of DNA, mystical states of consciousness are responsible for sudden understandings of many great scientific truths.

    I would go as far as to say that (for example) Einstein was a mystic of his time; given that his habits for contemplating new and revolutionary ideas involved masterful hypnagogic daydreaming. It is the non-ordinary state of consciousness that brings about truly innovative thinking. But I could be wrong.
  • What is religion?
    Religion is a caste system.
  • The End of the Mechanistic Worldview
    From my research, you're correct in that a new worldview is emerging. A popular title that I've seen this "new worldview" referred to as is "non-duality". Wherein the interconnectedness of all is acknowledged, leaving only a single, indivisible reality. But I think it's dangerous and shortsighted to assume that science isn't capable of embracing this emerging paradigm; call if whatever you wish.

    IMO, the new worldview can be found at the intersection(s) of science and mysticism.
  • Future Belief - New Age vs Atheism (wrt Psychedelics, Quantum Theory, Reality, Karma, Consciousness)


    It is interesting to see what happens when people relax their rigid rational conceptions of events, things, aspects, qualities. We see it under alterations to consciousness with some psychoactive drugs (cannabis, psilocybin, lsd, etc). Relationships between concepts become loose, free, flowing, imaginative, creative. The space that creates for metaphorical thought is enhanced and so to is the ability to form meaning. Looking at magick in terms of some of its attributes, we can immediately see value in its processes (as described in relation to the value within Altered States of Consciousness-ASC).

    To look at magick in terms of a strict doctrine that is true absolutely in every aspect is just missing the point. The point i was making in my video was that the process of imaginative conceptualisation borrowed from new age religions (even from religions) can be utilised alongside scientific knowledge to attain exactly what einsten was getting at when he said: "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind".

    I think we're on the same page here.
  • Shamanism is the root of all spiritual, religious and philosophical systems


    How's it going? I'm happy to respond to each of your points and questions. Here we go...

    Is this a personal belief or is there an evidence/documentation about that? Because I have a difficulty connecting Shamanism to ancient philosophy --Egyptian, Greek, Chinese or other.

    There is plenty of documentation, the evidence is all around you. And I'm compiling a post for this thread (which I will release on 9/11/22) exploring what's real in detail. And if you have a difficult time connecting the dots between Shamanism and ancient human philosophy, I would encourage you to investigate Divination, Hermeticism and Gnosis.

    Again what is the reference you are using regarding time? Not that it is important per se, of course, but it has to do with the validity of the history of Shamanism, which you are bringing in.

    Shamanism is timeless. All entities, either directly or indirectly, rely on Shamanism (and/or mutations and products of it). 100,000 years is a simple means of implying that pragmatic approaches to altering consciousness, and then using such states for gain, have been with us (and all others) since the beginning of time.

    Then, what do you mean by "and non-human"?

    Every entity, any entity (from living animals to eternal tulpas) utilize elements of Shamanism. You do too, whether you acknowledge it or not.

    Do you really believe that such a video or what the people do in it, can heal? Or that it can offer useful and important knowledge about life and existence, i.e. philosophical ideas, education, etc.

    If you're referring to the first video I shared, then my answer is "Yes". You probably don't appreciate what you're looking at there.

    However, if you're referring to the second video I shared, then my answer is "No". This video is only informational. But pursuing Technoshamanism is a path towards wisdom and healing, yes. All technologies are sacred, especially modern information technologies.

    Learn to code. And ascend.

    Just to make sure: Do you mean that Shamanism is more refined, of higher quality and class than philosophy as a system and quest for wisdom?

    Shamanism is a systematic and philosophical quest for wisdom. So, no.

    Bret, were you under drugs when you posted this?

    Nope. That's rather rude of you to even ask.
  • Shamanism is the root of all spiritual, religious and philosophical systems


    I guess it would be helpful if you could give us your perspective on what Shamanism is and how its practiced.

    Thank you for the inquest.

    I was going to attempt an explanation in one succinct response, but that doesn't seem possible ATM. What I will do, however, is spend a couple of weeks writing a 1,000 - 3,000 word overview of my understanding of Shamanism And then when finished, I will share the essay/article here as a response in this thread.

    Shamanism is an important philosophical thread in my life, and taking the time to explore why and how such is the case, will do good for those interested in learning more, as well as myself. Please be patient with my response, and understand that I will follow through with this objective. I have a lot to divulge.
  • Why is Bill Hicks largely ignored, while Joe Rogan is widely celebrated?


    Bill Hicks doesn't really have a central "channel" to find his best content. But if you search for his stand-up on YouTube, you'll find most of it. Here is his most infamous "gig":

  • Your Absolute Truths


    Human consciousness is quite special, and worth nurturing to its fullest potential. Glad to see others agree.