• Against Cause
    Or is that too literal?apokrisis

    OK, we'll have Britney make an appearance.
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  • Against Cause
    Does AI do psych rock?apokrisis

    I think it can do anything if it's a known music genre.

    Is this psych rock?:

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  • Against Cause
    And not any old forms but gauge symmetries.apokrisis

    I'm making a musical, which is what I mostly do lately, of your great post. Sjinn is creating the video visuals now, which will take quite a while, and then it has to go through Topaz for hours to become 4K, and then in FinalCutPro I'll slow down the video with optical flow since the vocals I made through Suno are longer than the Sjinn narration and replace the Sjinn boring type narration with the Suno vocals…

    This is a new service I'm trying out for posters if the mods let it be.

    Meanwhile, here is my YouTube channel (My 'Outlander' vid is a good recent example of the state of the art):

    https://www.youtube.com/@AustinPatrickTorney
  • Against Cause
    That’s pretty impressive if you just whipped it up.apokrisis

    It ended up and kind of an extra in the June writing challenge:
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/15983/tpf-essaypart-1-part-2
  • Against Cause
    iambic pentameter
    — Moliere

    Beneath, Below, and Further
    (With da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM rhythm.)

    Beneath, below, and further down we find
    
The large gives way to small by rule's design,

    To tiny forms and minuscule decline,

    To nothing much at all in absent line.

    Yet from this bottom place the all began

    Its upward call through time's eternal span,

    And here the answer to our sprawl was planned,

    Where nature wrote with her creating hand.

    Upon the foam existence carved its mark,

    A realm not like our thoughts in light or dark,
    
A lawless place that questions ever spark,

    Where formless mysteries through ages hark.

    Stability has fled our downward quest,

    And melted in descent without arrest,

    So perfect instability's our test—

    A symmetry that cannot find its rest.

    For everything must leak and flow away,

    No controlling force can ever stay,

    Of ruling factors we've run out today,

    Left empty-handed at the end of play.

    Here pulsate rhythms of the so-called void

    That swings between the spaces unexplored,
    
From here to there, its patterns never cloyed,
    
In rise and fall, forever thus employed.

    Here waits Eternity with ancient rhymes,

    With Anything and Everything's long chimes,

    Who have possessed through all the endless times

    The perpetuity that ever climbs.

    And if one waits through Forever's night,
    
Which is but instant in his endless sight,

    Through months of Sundays till the years take flight,

    Then rarest events shall come to light.

    At last all things that possibly can be

    Will manifest in time's vast symphony,

    For in the realm of possibility,

    All potentials claim their destiny.
  • Against Cause
    Quantum excitations shaped by their spacetime container and winding up as simple as possible.apokrisis

    Great post and writing style!

    Oh, how such a polar opposite is the simplex to the ultra-complex wished for by the religious…
  • Against Cause
    These are states of perfect potentiality that are also critically unstable.apokrisis

    Good! The perfect instability.

    Existence begins at a level that is already a relation in action, not when nothing becomes a first something.apokrisis

    'Nothing' is not an alternative to the Something of Existence', for Existence has no opposite, so, the base Existence is Eternal. The Permanent rearranges to form the temporaries.
  • Against Cause
    The Cosmos exists as the constraint on possibility. It emerges not from fundamental intentionality nor from fundamental mechanistic cause but from the fundamental vagueness of unorganised free potential. An essential state of everythingness that then must start to self-cancel until it becomes reduced to some coherently organised somethingness. A realm of inevitable structure.apokrisis

    Great! 'Everything' is a necessity since there is no design point for anything specific.
  • The value of the given / the already-given
    awarenessAstorre

    The actual 'you' is the Awareness that observes the happenings in the play that is going on; you are not your thoughts.

    Alan Watts explains:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiZ2WAy0pxY&t=434s
  • Against Cause
    The idea of causality is something I think about all the time.T Clark

    For convenience, perhaps, we impose boundaries on causes for effects; however, causes go all the way back…
  • The Mind-Created World
    I began reading Dan Brown's new novel.Gnomon

    Wow! You're on the ball; it only came out about a week ago. Has much about consciousness coming in from the outside.
  • The Mind-Created World
    Me too! Glattfelder has a favorite term to describe the ambiguities & uncertainties of paranormal phenomena : Postmodern*1Gnomon

    (See Dan Brown’s new book,
    ‘The Secret of Secrets’
    For a similar investigation)


    The Occasions of Experience via Whitehead’s Great Poet/Programmer

    Like drops of dew upon the morning grass,
    Brief moments sparkle, then are quick to fade;
    Each “occasion” born, fulfilled, surpassed—
    From these small deaths, reality is made.

    The universe—a vast mosaic laid
    Of prehensions, feelings, pure events;
    Each atom, thought, and star in grand parade
    Becoming, perishing, in present tense.

    No substance fixed beneath the world we sense,
    But process flowing through eternal Now;
    Each moment grasps the past with reverence,
    Then adds its novel aim, and takes its bow.

    The concrescence of all things that be—
    Each drop contains the cosmos’ memory.

    Each moment bears within its fleeting form
    The echoed traces of what came before;
    Subjective aim transforms the uniform
    Into creation's never-ending score.

    We are not things but poems being writ,
    A string of moments dancing into one;
    The many and the one forever knit—
    A billion suns comprising just one sun.
    Reveal
    The void of time fills up with occasions bright,
    Each grasping, feeling, yearning into form;
    The universe—a symphony of light
    Where past and future meet in endless storm.

    So Whitehead taught: reality’s not clay,
    But living moments born and passed away.

    The actual world—a tapestry unfurled
    Of prehended moments, gathered whole;
    Each subject weaves the threads of what has swirled
    Into new patterns as the cosmos rolls.

    No static substance underlying all,
    But drops of experience, self-creating;
    Each moment rises, answers to the call,
    Then perishes, its being still vibrating.

    The great philosopher's vision clear and bold:
    Reality is not of things, but acts;
    Each ‘now’ contains what every ‘then’ has told—
    A living process, not just lifeless facts.

    The past is not just gone, but flows within
    Each nascent moment, ready to begin.

    Beyond the veil of common sense’s reach,
    Lies truth more fluid than our words contain;
    Each entity, like waves upon the beach,
    Is but a ripple in experience’s chain.

    The Poet’s primordial vision guides
    Each occasion toward its best becoming;
    The lure of beauty where all truth resides—
    Eternal objects, endlessly oncoming.

    The universe is not a clockwork cold,
    But living feeling, sentient at its core;
    Each quantum flash of being, brave and bold,
    Creates itself, then passes through death’s door.

    So Whitehead saw beyond the ancient rift—
    As moments bloom and die, existence shifts.

    Each moment blooms, a pulse in Time’s great sea,
    Not things, but acts—events that come to be.
    From drop to drop the cosmos takes its shape,
    A dance of mind and matter, wild and free.

    No static stone, no idle, lifeless clod—
    But process moves beneath the soil and sod.
    Each flash of being, brief as morning dew,
    Is real as stars, is kissed by thought not odd.

    These “occasions” rise with feeling at their core,
    They prehend the past, yet seek a little more.
    Each grasps the world, then yields itself in turn,
    A spark that fades, but opens up the door.

    They form a web, these nodes of sentient flare,
    The past flows in, the future stirs the air.
    Reality’s not built of blocks and beams,
    But woven through with feeling, time, and care.

    The world’s not made, but making ever still,
    With every act a push against the will.
    No fate is fixed, no god is locked above—
    Creation wakes in each occasion’s thrill.

    So sip this cup—each moment brims with wine,
    Distilled from all that was, in grand design.
    A drop contains the cosmos in its fold,
    And flickers out, yet calls the next to shine.

    The world becomes, it never merely is,
    A flux of feeling, not a world of fizz.
    No atom sits alone in timeless gloom—
    It feels, it yearns, it tells us what it does.

    Each moment’s born from many come before,
    It draws their echo, adds a little more.
    Then perishes, a whisper in the dark—
    Yet leaves a trace no future can ignore.

    Subject becomes object, tossed in the stream,
    Each plays its part within the larger scheme.
    No soul stands still, no world remains the same—
    All shift and shape as in a woven dream.

    From Poet’s lure to matter’s smallest twitch,
    Each moment leans toward depths we cannot pitch.
    Reality’s a poem never done—
    Penned not in stone, but in becoming’s witch.

    Not being, but becoming—this we are,
    More like a flame than like a fallen star.
    We flicker, burn, and pass our light along—
    Each life a note in Time’s unending bar.

    So here we dance, occasion upon flame,
    Each flicker formed with joy, regret, or shame.
    Yet in the forming lies the sacred spark—
    A fleeting self that bears eternal name.

    The stars themselves are thoughts that came to be,
    Each nova sings in process, not decree.
    A galaxy’s a rhythm, not a rock—
    It hums with ancient acts of poetry.

    Each quark, each pulse, each curve of stellar flare,
    Responds to past and feels the future’s air.
    The cosmos is a mind that builds itself—
    A scaffold strung with intuition’s care.

    No vast machine with cold and mindless gears—
    But swirls of yearning shaped by hope and fears.
    A thousand billion hearts in every sphere,
    All whispering their stories through the years.

    The past is real, but not a prison cell,
    Its echoes guide, but do not bind or quell.
    Each moment holds the power to re-form
    The curve of time, the place where starlight fell.

    From primal flux to now, the arc has bent—
    Not by command, but lure and deep intent.
    A One who woos, not rules, the world to grow—
    Each choice a note in Love’s great instrument.

    So let the comet blaze and atoms spin,
    Each dance of dust a tale that dwells within.
    No void is empty—everywhere there burns
    A silent hymn of process born in din.

    Creation is not done—it is the song,
    Each verse a shift, each rhyme both right and wrong.
    We are the singers, listeners, and score—
    The universe becoming all along.
  • What Difference Would it Make if You Had Not Existed?
    My own thought experiment is of thinking about how life would have been if I had not existed.Jack Cummins

    There are no 'if's' but for planning scenarios; your 'if' is a fantasy world; actuality always trumps 'if', that is, you do exist.
  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?
    Put plainly, consciousness and its appearances is PRIOR to any idea of a physical brain. The true ground for all existence is consciousness.Constance

    So, the consciousness implements our reality and its experiencing, through qualia-appearances; it is the messenger - whose message seems to be existence and being. Even though it is movie-like, its happenings are identical to what would go on if all events were what we would call 'real': if there is no qualia gas in the qualia car, then the qualia car won't quaila run.

    An implementation difference that makes no difference to the message itself is truly no difference, but is still of interest to those who want to know the mechanics of our reality.
  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?
    The question then goes to how phenomena sustains the positing of noumena.Constance

    Qualia are the brain's own invented language?
  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?
    I am dumbfounded by the religious folks clinging to their mythology despite how much our understanding of reality has changed.Athena

    What’s Fundamental has to be partless,
    Permanent, and e’er remain as itself;
    Thus, it can only form temporaries
    Onward as rearrangements of itself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqQBHH_u5Vw
  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?
    What we want is the truth; seeing quantum physics as God's truth is something we need to consider.Athena

    Quantum Field Theory is by far the most successful truth in the history of science, its scientific model very well showing what goes on.

    The quantum 'vacuum' has a base zero-point energy that is never zero and a base zero-point motion that is never zero. Philosophically, we would also conclude that Nothing and Stillness wouldn't have prayer of being so.
  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?
    Many religious believers speak of faith. I am uncertain of the basis of faith as opposed to rational understanding and its relationship to the everyday existential aspects of faith, and fear, in human life.Jack Cummins

    Religious faith is no more than hopes and wishes for there to be a supernatural realm, which doesn't grant it, leaving one but with the wishes and hopes one started with.

    I picked up someone from church and apparently the pastor had been talking a long time about the 'foundation of faith', as if it was something, and then he built many more unknowns upon it!
  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?
    How is the "distance" between me and the cup closed so my thoughts about the cup are really about that over there called a cup?Constance

    I don't think it can be, for the brain 'paints a face' on the cup as the noumena becomes phenomena.

    One time I saw a fire burning at the base of a far away road sign; a closer look showed it to be some ribbons dangling and waving in the breeze.
  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?
    when we smell something, that thing does not go up our nose.Athena

    It does; the nose has receptors that can receive some molecule shapes that turn into smells; a dog has many more receptors.

    Michael returned, feeling very much recuperated and feeling totally blessed. “I’m back. I’d never known of such pleasant fragrances.”

    “Smells alert the ninja in the dark even as much as sound, the sub categories being aroma, fragrance, scent, perfume, redolence, bouquet, stench, fetor, stink, reek, and whiff.”

    “So you gave me roses to enjoy the pleasure of.”

    “Yes, but I am attracted to you, too.”

    “The inverse also applies.”

    “Good. Everyone appreciates the fragrance of fresh-cut flowers, but the stench from the paper mill across town is usually unwelcome. Both have a distinctive smell, which is the most general of these words for what is perceived through the nose, but there is a big difference between a pleasant smell and a foul one.”

    “You can say that again.”

    “That.”

    “Ha. What about odours, the British spelling that Austin likes over the American ‘odors’, which somehow has an unpleasant connotation to him.”

    “An odour may be either pleasant or unpleasant, but it suggests a smell that is clearly recognizable and can usually be traced to a single source, like the pungent odor of onions, which by the way, should be planted with potatoes since their eyes will water and nourish the crops.”

    “Good explanation, and joke. I’ve done aroma-therapy.”

    “An aroma is a pleasing and distinctive odor that is usually penetrating or pervasive, like the aroma of fresh-ground coffee, while bouquet refers to a delicate aroma, such as that of a fine wine. Here, have a glass. Don’t forget to swirl, sniff, sip, swallow, or spit if you are just wine sampling.”

    “The five S’s. What about the scent of a woman like you?”

    “A scent is usually delicate and pleasing, as I try to be, with an emphasis on the source rather than on an olfactory impression, such as the scent of balsam associated with Christmas.”

    “I now believe in Santa Claus. I chose a lilac fragrance from my quarters; it reminds me of my early youth in England with Molly McGuire under the fragrant bush…”

    “Yes, fragrances can take you back in an instant to their source in a remembrance from the past. Fragrance and perfume are both associated with flowers, but fragrance is more delicate. A perfume may be so rich and strong that it is repulsive or overpowering. Of the lilac it is said:

    Love’s first emotion rose from the Lilac,
    For it blooms when Nature is first aroused;
    It is love’s youngest dream to us come back,
    Where it will ne’er again remain unspoused.”

    “Indeed, fragrances are among the infinite variations of energy in nature. Energy may be the one thing, but it has many pleasant faces. But then there were the pigs, which, of course attractive to each other in their own way.”

    “Stench and stink are reserved for smells that are foul, strong, and pervasive, although stink implies a sharper sensation, while stench refers to a more sickening one: the stink of sweaty gym clothes; the stench of a rotting carcass.”

    “Thank you for the teachings.”
  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?
    What if God is quantum consciousness, and you are part of it? What if you never died?Athena

    What if the basis of All is the permanent quantum vacuum and you are a temporary arrangement of it? What if you disperse back unto it?
  • The Concept of 'God': What Does it Mean and, Does it Matter?
    So if the good scientist is going explain knowledge, she fails before she even begins, because science's bottom line is causality, and causality simply does not deliver knowledge. BUT: it is plain as day that I do know this cup is here, on the table, just as I know the sky is clear, the trees green, and so on. Clearly I DO reach beyond the horizon of what a physical brain can do, so how is this possible?Constance

    The brain not only uses clues coming from without but also uses clues from within, such as memory and experience in expectation of what is a cup.
  • Strong Natural Theism: An Alternative to Mainstream Religion
    This OP aims to briefly summarize a theistic position from natural theologyBob Ross

    "18. Therefore, a first cause of change is a changeless being.
    19. A part of a whole is something which contributes to the whole but is not identical to it.
    20. Anything which has parts has potential (to be affected by way of its parts being affected).

    21. A purely actual being, lacking any potential, being changeless, must have no parts
    whatsoever because parts imply having potential and this kind of being lacks all potential.
    22. A purely actual being, then, is absolutely simple.
    23. Therefore, there must be at least one purely actual and absolute simple being which provides
    the first, pure act of change."

    It seems that you are leaping ahead, identifying a being, rather than just an eternal permanence that 'IS' (has being), such as the quantum vacuum, that is absolutely simple, but never still, providing for change.
  • Faith
    How can you be anti something that doesn't exist?Paula Tozer

    Yes, 'God', as proposed to be some greater mind as the basis of all, cannot be, for it is a system of thinking, planning, designing, and implementing, which cannot be fundamental since its part would have to be more so,

    Greater beings may become in the future, so the past and its lesser is not the direction to look, for there is only the simpler and simpler there, unto the lightness of being of the quantum fields.

    Quantum fields’ Presence, through transient veins,
    Running Quicksilver-like, fuels our gains—
    Taking all the temporary shapes as
    They change and perish all—but It remains.

    All the temporary complexities
    From the Eterne must someday fade away,
    Even the universe with its grandness,
    Dispersing its greatness into blandness.

    In between, the Basis sets a story
    That gets lived by the transients within,
    As life and all the stars, moons, and planets—
    In a book from the Babel Library.

    What’s Fundamental has to be partless,
    Permanent, and e’er remain as itself;
    Thus, it can only form temporaries
    Onward as rearrangements of itself.

    The Simplest can’t be made; it has no parts;
    Likewise, it can’t break; ne’er ‘Nothing’ starts;
    Thus, Necessity, without alternative,
    Makes the Big Bang and our transient hearts.

    What’s Fundamental has to be partless,
    Lest its parts be more-so and it be less;
    It’s ever, ne’er still, else naught could happen;
    The quantum ‘vacuum’ weaves the universe’s dress.

    The elementaries of a type are
    The same, being woven by the same weave,
    Only at the stable rungs of quanta;
    They’re well anchored, but they’re secondary.

    Are the fields spooky as non physical?
    Since the elementaries are physical,
    And because they are outright field quanta,
    The quantum fields are purely physical.

    Change, change, change… constant change, as fast as it
    Can happen—the speed of light being foremost
    The speed of causality—o’er 13 billion years now,
    From the simple on up to the more complex.

    The ‘vacuum’ has to e’er jitter and sing,
    This Base Existent forced as something,
    Due to the nonexistence of ‘Nothing’;
    When it ‘tries’ to be zero, it cannot.

    At the indefinite quantum level,
    Zero must be fuzzy, not definite;
    So it can’t be zero, but has to be
    As that which is ever up to something.
  • Faith
    You know, when I first realized that Christians lied, I was upsetPaula Tozer

    To put all of this in a perspective:

    'Faith' is no more than a wish and a hope that doesn't grant its object; thus all talk of its truth is not only moot but misleading to the point of intellectual dishonesty. Blah, blah, blah, on and on, anon.
  • How Will Time End?
    This is an interesting questionable area, whether time is a concept in the mind, or an independent aspect of existence.Jack Cummins

    The Eternal Return

    Behind the Veil, being that which e’er thrives,
    The Eternal IS has ever been alive,
    For that which hath no onset cannot die,
    Nor a point from which to impart its Why.

    Some time it needed to learn Everything for,
    And now well knows how these bubbles to pour,
    Of existence, in some like universe,
    As those that wrote your poem and mine, every verse.

    So, as thus, thou lives on yester’s credit line
    In nowhere’s midst, now in this life of thine,
    As of its bowl your cup of brew was mixed
    Into the state of being that’s called “mine”.

    Yet worry you that this Cosmos is the last,
    That the likes of us will become the past,
    Space wondering whither whence we went
    After the last of us her life has spent?

    The Eternal Saki has thus formed
    Trillions of baubles like ours, and will form,
    Forevermore—the comings and passings
    Of which it ever emits to immerse
    Of those universal bubbles blown and burst.

    So fear not that a debit close your
    Account and mine, knowing the like no more;
    The Eternal Cycle from its pot has pour’d
    Zillions of bubbles like ours, and will pour.

    Our fruits are of a universal seed
    As the yield of All possibility treed,
    And siblings elsewhere in the entropic sea
    Will also be born of such probability.

    When You and I behind the cloak are past
    But the long while the next universe shall last,
    Which of one’s approach and departure the All grasps
    As might the sea’s self heed a pebble cast.
  • Consciousness is Fundamental
    no conscious mind can exist without the living body which it could be emerged from.Corvus

    Great!

    The Nature of Consciousness
    (Some gleaned from Gsin)

    Within the Brain’s vast Palace, deep and strange,
    Consciousness flows, yet cannot free-range;
    Like Sun or Tree, a Process, not a Thing—
    A river bound within its banks of change.

    (It, as a brain process can’t float around space)

    What fills our Minds arrives not instant-new,
    But late, some half-millisecond past its due;
    The Brain’s swift voting finished ere we know,
    Our conscious thoughts already past and through.

    (A forced delay, subconscious analysis taking time)

    The Map we see becomes our Territory,
    While neural states write out our second story;
    The basement toils unseen beneath our feet,
    As upstairs dwells our conscious inventory.

    (The neurological ‘basement’ is the first storey)

    Thus Consciousness arrives too late to cause,
    Though seeming master of all nature’s laws;
    A broadcast tape-delayed, yet feeling live—
    The director speaks once action draws!

    (Enjoy the play!)
    Reveal
    And when one thought has flickered through the mind,
    More brain-realms answer, leaving none behind;
    Thus contemplation’s thread unwinds its spool,
    Each moment to the next forever twined.

    (The Greatest Stitcher; no seams)

    Behold its nature’s aspects five unfold:
    Compositional structures manifold,
    Intrinsic as our own, Informing clear,
    Integrated, Exclusive in its hold.

    (The whole darn operation)

    United feels this field of conscious thought,
    Though scattered be the brain-realms where it’s wrought;
    The qualia of sense-experience shine,
    While seamless flows the change that time has brought.

    (Perfect Unity!)

    How can this ghost of thought move flesh and bone,
    When neural deed is done and verdict known
    Before awareness breaks upon our shore?
    The answer in time’s sequence lies alone.

    (Nah, it doesn’t; the brain does it)

    Yet Consciousness brings gifts beyond mere scheme
    Of reflex-action’s automatic stream:
    Flexibility to shape reaction’s course,
    And Focus sharp on what we vital deem.

    (Exclusion)

    It grants Evaluation’s weighted scale,
    Where logic, feeling, neither can quite fail;
    For Survival it opens pathways new,
    Where Complex choices might yet prevail.

    (Evaluation)

    Through Learning’s endless combinations bright,
    We weave perception’s threads in fresh delight;
    Discrimination’s finest differences show
    Which fruits bring health, which hold destruction’s bite.

    (The will is dynamic)

    In Evolution’s grand unfolding play,
    It spurred the Cambrian dawn of nature’s way;
    Made predators grow keen in cunning’s art,
    While prey found newer paths from day to day.

    (The explosion)

    See Beauty bloom in flower’s painted face,
    As plants evolved their pollinator’s grace;
    While minds could ponder action’s consequence
    Before commitment to time’s embrace.

    (Actionizing)

    Reality stands firm beyond our sight,
    Our senses taking in its waves of light;
    The Brain paints useful faces on these waves—
    Makes color from mere frequency’s delight.

    (Just three proteins in the eye rotate according to
    the amount of the three primary colors)

    When drugs or sleep or trauma’s sudden blow
    Disturb the brain, consciousness sinks below;
    Change neural paths, and mind must follow suit—
    For only from the brain can awareness flow.

    (Consciousness is a brain process reflected)

    We often miss the sea in which we swim,
    Mistaking thought-stream’s contents, fleeting-dim,
    For consciousness itself that bears them all,
    Like water bearing leaves on ocean’s rim.

    (The Sea in which we See)

    Behold Consciousness in all its parts,
    How structured layers form from scattered starts;
    Each distinction clear as mountain streams,
    Yet flowing to one sea of human arts.

    (Distinction par excellance!)

    First mark how Composition builds its throne
    From many elements, not one alone;
    Like letters forming words, then sentences,
    Till meaning rises from the parts well-shown.

    (A kind of consciousness’ alphabet unto literature)

    As bricks and mortar rise to mansion fair,
    So consciousness builds castles in the air;
    Each phenomenal distinction placed
    With architect’s precision, layer by layer.

    (What a filmmaker!)

    Intrinsic next, as personal as breath,
    As intimate as life, as close as death;
    No borrowing this sense of ‘only mine’,
    This ownership no other self can theft.

    (Yours alone)

    Independent it stands, yet bound within,
    Like sovereignty that needs no foreign kin;
    A kingdom of the self, complete and whole,
    Where every thought knows where it should begin.

    (King of the World)

    Then Information flows, precise and clear,
    Each detail rendered faithfully sincere;
    No vague approximations cloud this lens,
    Each particle of thought crystal-clear.

    (Extreme clarity)

    Particular and specific it stays,
    No general musings cloud its focused gaze;
    Like archer’s arrow seeking only one
    Sweet target through perception’s misty haze.

    (Focused)

    Integration weaves its seamless whole
    From scattered threads of being’s varied scroll;
    Though brain-regions far and wide contribute,
    One unified experience is their goal.

    (All for one)

    No longer can this wholeness be reduced
    To simpler parts, once unity’s produced;
    Like water from its elements combined,
    A new thing altogether is induced.

    (True emergence? Or Fundamental?)

    Exclusivity sets boundaries clean:
    No more, no less than what is truly seen;
    Each conscious moment perfectly defined,
    No fuzzy edges blur what contents mean.

    (Nothing extra)

    See how Mental Unity holds its ground,
    Though neural sources scatter all around;
    Like many instruments in symphony,
    Creating one magnificent sound.

    (The Magnificat!)

    The brain’s divided regions all conspire
    To forge one field of consciousness entire;
    Though specialists in different corners toil,
    One unified experience they inspire.

    (What a symphony!)

    Then Qualia paint their colors rich and strange,
    The felt-sense qualities that ever range
    From red of rose to taste of morning dew,
    As consciousness gives meaning to each change.

    (Physical neurological to experiential qualia)

    These qualities that only minds can know—
    The sunset’s beauty, coffee’s warming glow—
    Are consciousness’s artist’s palette pure,
    From which all lived experience must flow.

    (All one ever encounters is the inside of the head)

    Continuity then stitches time’s swift stream
    Into one flowing, ever-changing dream;
    Though moments pass like birds across the sky,
    Their passage forms one motion, or would seem.

    (A great video editor)

    No gaps appear within this seamless flow,
    Though consciousness must come and sometimes go;
    Like movie frames run swift before our eyes,
    Create illusion of continuous show.

    (Very high sight resolution, at least in the center)

    Each aspect thus contributes to the whole
    Of consciousness’s grand, mysterious role:
    Compositional, Intrinsic, Informed,
    Integrated, Exclusive in its soul.

    (Therein lies it nature)

    Together these create the mirror bright
    In which the world reveals itself to sight;
    Though physics charts the cosmos vast and deep,
    Consciousness alone can hold its light.

    (Ah, light within a dark head)

    The brain translates raw reality’s face
    To sound and color, taste, and touch’s grace;
    Consciousness mirrors brain-activity,
    As neural patterns weave through time and space.

    (It paints a better more useful face)

    From nerve to spine to brain’s encrypted code,
    Consciousness threads throughout its whole abode;
    A way to act within imagination,
    Before committing to action’s road.

    (From the nerve spindles everywhere…)

    While Physics charts external cause and rule,
    Consciousness exists as nature’s jewel:
    Intrinsic, whole, composed of many parts,
    Yet unified beyond reduction’s tool.

    (Seems irreducible, perhaps fundamental)

    It serves distinction’s evolutionary need,
    Though causing naught save in its own thought-deed,
    For being, not for doing, is its realm,
    While intelligence guides action’s seed.

    (It appears to exist only for itself)

    The posterior cortex holds the key,
    For only here must consciousness still be;
    With feedback loops that bind the fragments whole,
    Creating unity that lets us see.

    (Feedback ‘magic’)

    This wholeness forms consciousness direct and clear,
    A process fundamental, nature’s peer;
    Or else it speaks the brain’s symbolic tongue,
    Translating neural code to meaning near.

    (Are qualia the language of the mind?)

    This Whole speaks outward, sharing mind with mind,
    While brain-states learn what consciousness designed;
    So subconscious regions can then know
    The unified awareness thus defined.

    (A global broadcast?)

    The brain’s grand theatre stages its display,
    While consciousness arrives too late to sway
    The plot already written, yet feels real—
    Director of a film from yesterday.

    (Seems to be happening live)

    And thus we end where first our tale began:
    In brain’s deep halls where consciousness first ran,
    A process bound in flesh, yet seeming free,
    Reflecting on itself since we began.

    (Consciousness evolved)

    Consider now Time’s arrow and its flight:
    How consciousness lags reality’s height;
    While neural networks race beneath our view,
    We float upon their wake in conscious light.

    (Skiing like)

    Each moment that we think we’re choosing new
    Has already been settled through and through;
    The brain decided ere we knew to choose,
    Our feeling of free will a time-skewed clue.

    (The fixed will of the instant)

    Like ripples spreading on a neural pond,
    Each thought-wave touches shores that lie beyond;
    The conscious mind may claim to rule alone,
    Yet unconscious depths hold wisdom’s bond.

    (In the repertoire)

    In dreams we glimpse this truth most clear of all,
    When consciousness lets its firm barriers fall;
    The hidden brain spins tales we think we guide,
    While neural pattern-makers weave our thrall.

    (As well was from brain ‘noise’)

    Mark how the senses each their tale relate:
    Sight, sound, and touch combine to integrate;
    Yet consciousness binds all to unity,
    Though scattered brain-realms must collaborate.

    (The orchestra plays as one)

    What seems a single stream of thought sublime
    Is orchestra of brain-realms keeping time;
    Each player adds its note to consciousness,
    Till harmony emerges from their chime.

    (Conducting itself like a band)

    When damage strikes some portion of the brain,
    See how consciousness shifts its domain;
    Like water finding new paths to the sea,
    Neural plasticity rebuilds again.

    (Consciousness directly reflects the brain)

    In meditation’s deep and centered space,
    We sometimes catch consciousness face-to-face;
    The watcher and the watched at last revealed
    As brain-processes moving through their grace.

    (Remove thoughts; meditation is not what you think!)

    Each qualia—each taste of wine or tea,
    Each sunset’s glow, each song’s sweet melody—
    Emerges from the brain’s translation true
    Of raw reality we cannot see.

    (Phenomena from Noumena)

    The hardest problem still remains unsolved:
    How neural fire to conscious thought evolved;
    What bridge connects the objective brain
    With subjective experience resolved?

    (The Hard Problem)

    Perhaps we seek a ghost that never was,
    Questioning consciousness and all its laws;
    When brain-process and awareness merge as one,
    The mystery dissolves without a cause.

    (Basic property?)

    Yet still we feel the weight of being here,
    Of knowing that we know, of thinking clear;
    Though consciousness arrives a moment late,
    Its presence makes our human nature dear.

    (Second level view of first level thought)

    When Memory opens up its golden door,
    Consciousness weaves past moments as before;
    Yet what we think we purely recollect
    Is reconstruction from the neural store.

    (Prions hold memory stable, yet it can fade/change)

    Each reminiscence that we hold so true
    Is fabricated, mixed, and born anew;
    The brain invents to fill each memory’s gaps,
    While consciousness presents the seamless view.

    (Can change from being accessed)

    In Sleep’s dark realm, see consciousness transform,
    As neural patterns shift from waking norm;
    Dreams rise like bubbles from the depths below,
    While reason’s captain sleeps amid the storm.

    (The brain is not fully functioning)

    The Child’s mind shows consciousness unfold,
    As neural networks worth their weight in gold
    Build representations ever more complex,
    Till self-awareness blooms from patterns old.

    (Linear details scanned; overall view done in parallel)

    Mark how Attention’s spotlight roams the stage,
    Selecting what consciousness will engage;
    While countless neural processes compete,
    One winner claims the mind’s illumined page.

    (Many simpleton ‘minds’ competing for attention)

    The Social Brain evolved this conscious art
    To model others’ minds and take their part;
    Through consciousness we simulate their thoughts,
    And navigate the human heart.

    (Empathy)

    Some say the Self is but a useful tale
    That consciousness spins like a ship’s bright sail;
    A story that the brain tells to itself,
    To chart a course through life’s tempestuous gale.

    (Having future is foremost: as survival)

    When altered states through drug or trance descend,
    See how reality and dreamtime blend;
    As neural patterns shift their normal course,
    Consciousness follows where these changes tend.

    (Faithful mirror of the brain)

    The Language centers weave their grammar’s spell,
    Creating inner voices that can tell
    The stories of our consciousness stream,
    Though deeper currents run beneath the well.

    (The currents’ result appears as being current)

    Consider how Decision’s moment flows:
    The brain computes before awareness knows;
    Yet consciousness can help set parameters
    By which subconscious wisdom makes its shows.

    (More, as meaning rumination)

    Like fractals building patterns ever new,
    Each conscious moment holds a nested view;
    The brain creates complexity from simple rules,
    As awareness emerges from the crew.

    (But a very complex process)

    In Evolution’s laboratory vast,
    Consciousness proved its worth in ages past;
    For those who could model future scenes
    Found better paths than those who moved too fast.

    (Good, but reactive people may need to slow down)

    The Mirror test reveals the self-aware,
    As consciousness learns itself to declare;
    Yet even this awareness comes too late,
    The brain already knowing who is there.

    (Only ever the just past is shown; no present)

    Some philosophers would consciousness deny,
    Call it illusion, or a useful lie;
    But process needs no substance to be real—
    Ask any wave that moves beneath the sky.

    (Daniel Dennett)

    The Mystery remains, yet science shows
    How brain-process to conscious knowing flows;
    Each year we map more territories true
    Of how awareness comes and goes.

    (Soon, others can read your mind)

    Perhaps no final answer we shall find
    To bridge the gap ‘tween matter and the mind;
    Yet in the seeking lies our nature’s crown:
    Consciousness studying its own kind.

    (Information is dual as both matter and mind?)

    When Artificial Minds begin to rise,
    Will consciousness emerge before our eyes?
    Or will there only be a zombie’s dance,
    Raw computation wearing thought’s disguise?

    (Artificial Inteligence)

    For how can we be certain what is felt
    By other minds where consciousness has dwelt?
    The hard problem doubles when we seek
    To know if silicon can awareness melt.

    (Functionalism)

    In Meditation’s depths some masters claim
    That consciousness transcends the mortal frame;
    Yet every altered state that they describe
    Still needs a brain to light awareness’ flame.

    (Actually, quietude in ID center and body boundary)

    The Quantum theorists would consciousness bind
    To wave collapse and measurement combined;
    Yet macro-scale coherence can’t survive
    In neural warmth of any human mind.

    (Need a brain freeze from eating ice cream)

    Some see consciousness spread through all that is,
    Pan-psychic dreams of universal bliss;
    But process needs complexity to rise,
    And rocks hold not the patterns consciousness miss.

    (Electron thinks: which way should I go?)

    When Artists shape new visions from the void,
    Is consciousness the master they employed?
    Or does it merely watch the neural dance
    Of creativity otherwise deployed?

    (Are we the dancer or the danced upon?)
    (What should I do? The universe does you!)

    The Moral sense that guides us right from wrong,
    Does consciousness conduct that ancient song?
    Or does it only witness what arose
    From neural circuits judging all along?

    (Nature and nurture)

    Consider too how consciousness must grow
    Through childhood’s dawn, as neural patterns flow;
    Each year brings richer awareness to the mind,
    As brain-complexity continues to show.

    (Teen-age brains may show some temporary ‘insanity’)

    Some species share consciousness with our kind,
    While others leave awareness far behind;
    The octopus thinks thoughts we cannot know,
    While beetles march with simpler states assigned.

    (Got to roll that dung!)

    In Cultures spread across Earth’s fertile face,
    Each finds in consciousness a different grace;
    Some see it as the cosmic force divine,
    While others mark its neural time and place.

    (A soul?)

    When Lovers meet and consciousness combines,
    Do qualia cross over normal lines?
    Or does each brain remain forever sealed,
    While empathy suggests deeper designs?

    (Yes)

    The Future holds more mysteries in store,
    As neuroscience opens door by door;
    Will consciousness reveal its secrets all,
    Or keep some riddles hidden evermore?

    (All will be revealed in time)

    When Brain-Computer Interfaces bloom,
    Will consciousness expand beyond its room?
    Or will it stay confined to brain-process,
    While external aids play progress’s tune?

    (We will become as Large Language models)

    In Aging’s slow descent we sometimes find
    That consciousness grows dim as neurons bind;
    Yet wisdom often deepens with the years,
    As if awareness grows more refined.

    (The wise old man or woman)

    The Social Web that links all human minds
    Creates a meta-consciousness that binds;
    Yet each brain holds its private theater still,
    While sharing what the conscious mind assigns.

    (Memes)

    Perhaps in Time we’ll map the neural code
    That gives rise to consciousness’ episode;
    Yet knowing how may never tell us why
    Awareness lights the brain’s abode.

    (Quantum mental fields?)
  • How Will Time End?
    That is, all times are present to God, and all places are here; the whole universe of spacetime is in His hand. But this is poetic talk that no one understands.unenlightened

    The Final Epilog

    There could not have been any specific time,
    One that was privileged over any other chime,
    Nor any special place, nor any certain form
    Arising out of the necessarily causeless realm.

    Even the locally specific dates and places past
    Of the events’ novel memoirs couldn’t last,
    They being writ on water, with no meaning vast,
    Disappearing in significance so very fast,
    Since it’s only the universals that last.

    The protons were now gone from the show,
    Having decayed so very long ago
    Into positrons—ever canceling the electrons,
    And emitting the fleeing light of photons,
    There being of course an equal amount
    Of protons and electrons in the count.

    And of course along with all the protons
    Went all of the atomic elements—the end,
    All of their forms becoming myth and legend,
    As they were still dreamt in night dreams,
    Those forms that we once had, so it seemed.

    She, as many of a luckily adaptable kind,
    Had long since lightened and lighted her mind,
    With the dwindling electrons and precious photons—
    That beginning light of ancient times growing wan.

    Ours had been the first line in the universe,
    One that had become sentient, with proto-man first,
    The rest of the Cosmos being but a colossal waste,
    A foreboding, harsh, and very dangerous place.

    She was now the only one left,
    Having outlived all of the rest.
    The universe was near crumbling away,
    Having run out of space, time, and all its sway.

    She was dispersing, melting, into the vacuum, lone,
    But she held on for another thousand years, alone,
    And then she too was gone,
    Being the last of the hominid’s song,

    Of all that was sapient: the Magnificat,
    The composition of Earth’s sweet plot,
    The greatest symphony that was ever sown,
    It now having faded into the unknown.

    From near nothingness our forms became,
    And into the same must go our remains.

    If the unknown be such, though it’s otherwise;
    But if it’s yet called ‘unknown’ then the reply
    Is still for sure that we’re free to be, anywise.

    If you’ve shed a tear reading here
    For both the far and the near and dear
    It won’t make their graves green again,
    But it’s possible that life could begin again…

    Be of Good Cheer-—the sullen Month will die,
    And a young Moon requite us by and by:
    Look how the Old one meagre, bent, and wan
    With Age and Fast, is fainting from the Sky!
    (Omar)
  • How Will Time End?
    It was much simpler once, in those days of old
    When we thought that universes didn’t go cold,
    But that they expanded and then collapsed,
    Still destroying all, yet ever giving more to last.

    And well before that, once upon a storied time,
    We simply made it all up, with tales and rhyme,
    In place of any physical observations,
    Such as through revealing experimentations.

    The past was now a reef of dead accumulation,
    A graveyard of various useless information,
    Which despite its splendorous beauty
    Could not provide for a novel futurity.

    The last one of us, born of the sparkness,
    Kept a window to the outer darkness…

    She looked out from a once brightly
    Colored and sparkling inner reality
    Into the dark abyss…

    There was nothing out there,
    All being so lonely and bare—
    No more singing of life’s song,
    For now everything was gone.
  • How Will Time End?
    I like the way in which you personify or anthromorphise time, especially as all forms of existence are dependent upon it.Jack Cummins

    Our spurt of life followed by an infinite stretch
    Of dark equilibrium was but the briefest sketch—
    A warm and fuzzy stage, so interestingly active,
    Whose time relatively was but infinitesimive.

    Yet we were there in all our glory,
    For whenever else could we have been?
    In the future, uncounted societies of
    Overlapping minds accumulate, with love,

    In island redoubts, their preserved data burning
    With a vital remembrance, in which, returning,
    The past is the present and future, they all reliving
    The data, even animating it, and ever altering.

    Without any new enrichments, the present and future
    Reprise the past in this retreat from external nature.
    Their candles would have been near invisible to us—
    They enduring by diminishing so as not to exhaust.

    They made few new memories, a kind of blind sight,
    For whatever realities had ever existed out of sight
    Of their own mental structures were now fractured,
    And thus not so different from those manufactured.

    The Penultimate Part of the Final Dark

    An Escalating One-Way Trip
    From a Fluke to Oblivion

    The majority of the energy
    Of the universe is dark today,
    Although everything else passes
    Through it in every way.

    It’s everywhere,
    Having a component
    That repels its own state,
    Which cause the expansion of
    The universe to much accelerate.

    Dark Energy Matters: The Escalation

    We’re on a one way trip from a quantum fluke,
    That maximal energy within old Planck’s nook,
    Heading toward the oblivion of sparse expansion—
    All that we ever loved and knew going to extinction.

    They sent message of early warnings to some,
    In those castles of illusion, yes, many a one—
    That they would face the decay, not so far away,
    Of the heavy particles—the ‘proton pause’, one day.

    No self-assembled granularity can endure
    Forever but must return to the substructure,
    And so the lives must all transition, it seems,
    From heavier to much lighter regimes…

    Although this too would not be permanent—
    All destined to be swallowed by the firmament.

    We have often asked why some space exists,
    Why it permits the countless to briefly persist
    On Mother Earth, nourished under Father Sky—
    All of those finite sparks that light and die.

    There were those who endlessly debated
    Whether to live in their virtuals unabated
    Or to press forwards and outwards, in delirium,

    To seek out new localities in the mysterium,
    But the pauses of the heavy particles continued,
    And so there was nowhere to go for the retinued.
  • How Will Time End?
    this may stretch beyond the limits of human epistemology.Jack Cummins

    The Waves of the Ancient Swells
    Of Time’s Eroding Swells
    Swept Ever On…

    As Time, now hoary with age,
    Yet hurled forth its ashen change,
    The charge ever san, pale and colorless,
    That force born to summon decay, so endless,
    ‘Gainst Nature’s Universe, every day.

    Time and time again, Time fed all upon,
    In its bloodless, white, and waxen way,
    But our everlasting rose would not fade,

    Its luster even brightening by the day,
    Ever unsuccumbing to the sickly, peakèd
    State draining drawn Earth’s life away.
     Entropic seas yet denude the mountains,

    Yet our enduring flower never-endingly
    Has cast Deathly Time aside, as now,
    Ceaselessly somehow thriving on
    Toward that which is the near imperishable,

    As beauty’s flame e’er inextinguishable,
    Forever celebrated as immutable,
    Gaining a seemingly perpetual permanence
    From the undying love of this glorious dance.

    Yet, everything was moving apart, cooling off,
    The big slowdown not really so very far off;
    Ultimately, even the black holes of late
    And the lightless planets would dissipate.

    The primordial soup once so rich and hearty
    Was now a thin gruel that couldn’t serve the party.

    One day, every particle will be moving away
    From every other particle, so much out of the way
    That they won’t even be able to see one another;
    Thus, for all intents motion will have ceased forever.
  • How Will Time End?
    The universe doesn't end as such, but keeps fading away, entropy ever converging on zero or whatever background energy / quantum foam.jorndoe

    Should we not believe in God since nothing lasts?
    Well, if nothing lasts then of what our purpose past?

    Is a purpose really required, so constructive,
    Or would that really be quite restrictive?


    No realm could really be special or sent,
    Its becoming being of some specific intent,
    For all has arrived as a causeless non-precedent.

    Is there anything wrong with the freedom to be,
    Anywhere, any how, or any time during eternity?

    Should we rail against the law of entropy—
    The ‘heat death’ of thermodynamic energy,
    The second of its final laws, you see,
    Because it would destroy all of history?


    There are so many ways for disorder to be
    Than any one ordered state specifically.
    Would even a heaven on Earth become a misery
    If as it might, contain no more novelty?
    Must there be an end to our revelry?

    Can’t we at least hibernate eternally?
    Won’t all matter too last eternally?

    Will Shakespeare’s works live on, paternally?

    Is this not a Wagnerian struggle for eternity?

    Science Can Settle Whether a Last Day
    Is Ever Going to Come this Way

    Only a decade or so ago, with consternation,
    We discovered the universe’s acceleration,
    Its expansion even increasing, onto a thin disaster,
    The galaxies getting further away ever faster—
    Then one last snapshot taken, for all to remember.

    The accelerating expansion of the universe’s rafters
    Means that the universe will cool even ever faster;
    So, any rare forms of the future’s life prolongers
    Will have to keep themselves ever more cooler,
    Think more slowly, and hibernate ever longer.

    One day even the protons will fade away,
    Leaving but dark matter, electrons, and positrons.
  • How Will Time End?
    would advise 'silence'Jack Cummins

    We can estimate what happens as the universe expands… unto the final silent dark after the stars have gone… but first:

    As an ambitious species of nurture and nature
    We now and have always pointed toward the future,
    For, of the three forms of the chimpanzee:
    The common chimp, the bonobo, and us, we
    Are the only chimp who went beyond the trees…

    And more importantly, ever out of Africa freed,
    By that exodus, which laid down, indeed,
    From that experience, the urge and the need
    To move on, exploring, ever planting another seed.

    The horizons on Earth sufficed us through time
    For many millennia but now the horizons’ climes
    Have broadened, through cosmology and physics,
    And so they can well inform us of our prospects.

    The future matters to us for very basic reasons:
    We wish to offset our mortality, our pleasin’s,
    To know if humanity’s works for every season
    Will be remembered or lost—all for nothing, even.

    The Final, Silent Dark Marches On…

    Time hurls a million waves of its displacements
    At us, yet we are still here—the replacements.

    Time, ever gray with age, hurls its changes then,
    ‘Gainst existence’s rock, time and time again,
    The entropic seas denuding the sands,
    Yet energy is preserved via nature’s wands.

    Reminiscence had weathered but could ne’er wither,
    For, in the mists of time, yesteryear yet appeared,
    Since, without future, ‘past’ is all they’d have.

    Would the prospect of a ‘Big Crunch’ bring on mania,
    In an ever more confining claustrophobia?

    Seems a better thought, somehow, though no picnic,
    But more pleasing if the universe were to be cyclic,
    Although then all would still be really crushed,
    And forever lost, gone headlong into the rush.

    We expect cycles, for all the days and seasons
    Embedded this in our ancestors, into our reasons,
    Since at least the periodic supplies some rhythm,
    A pattern—the rolling hills of lives onward driven.

    As for cyclic, endless repetitions, they too
    Would seem to revolt more of us than just a few;
    As too perhaps would some infinite abyss of time,
    Which both grant us neither reason nor rhyme.

    Does the drama go on forever, or does it end?
    What do the visions of the future portend?
    Doesn’t it all have some purpose meant—
    A goodly end that all of it to us might it present?

    Is our higher mammal time certainly
    But of such a short parentheses within eternity?

    It’s only a finite time then, which too tends
    To horrify so many, as the universe ends,
    Such as told by Robert Frost, a name of chill:
    In heat or in cold, known as fire or ice, still.
  • How Will Time End?
    could the expansion separate particles and anti-particles from the background micro-chaos, so they don't cancel back into the background microcosm?jorndoe

    It is supposed that that is what happened during inflation.
  • On Intuition, Free Will, and the Impossibility of Fully Understanding Ourselves
    I’ve come to the conclusion that most media portrayals of AI developing "its own motives" are based on flawed reasoning. I don’t believe that machines—now or ever—will develop intrinsic motivation, in the sense of acting from self-generated desire. This is because I believe something far more basic: not even human beings have free will in any meaningful, causally independent sense.

    To me, human decisions are the inevitable product of evolutionary predispositions and environmental conditioning. A person acts not because of a metaphysical "self" that stands outside causality, but because neural machinery—shaped by genetics, trauma, language, culture—fires in a particular way. If that’s true for humans, how much more so for a machine?
    Jacques

    Great analogy; nothing more to say.
  • How Will Time End?
    The question is a serious one, but I wish it to be considered imaginatively,Jack Cummins

    OK, imagination… and the long good-bye…

    The Last Chance Saloon

    Entropy is always the winner in the end,
    When there’s no more energy left to lend;
    Meanwhile, we stabilize, in nature’s ways,
    Rearranging resources temporarily.

    Prelude

    Going beyond our very old obsession so vast,
    Of how it all began, back in the distant past,
    Yet retaining our search for meaning, from that,
    We now turn to how will it all end, this and that,
    Whether becoming collapsed, expended, or flat.

    Is there is some deep meaning in all that?
    Yes, for it is there in that future distance,
    We’ll find or not the end of our persistence,
    Whether or not we are at all forever resistant,

    Whether all that was and what was did and done
    Will be of any long-lasting benefit to anyone—
    Of what destiny awaits, if there ever was one.

    Endings are important to us, of what we’re about,
    Because we believe that how things turn out
    Implies what the beginnings ultimately meant,
    Of what or not is our place in the firmament.

  • How Will Time End?
    In speaking of the end of time, I am referring to the end of space-time, and its associated laws.Jack Cummins

    When the universe ends—sparse photons left…
    that are so far apart that they could not 'see' one another…

    The last black holes will whisper to the void,
    Their Hawking radiation’s fading song
    A requiem for galaxies long dead,
    For stars that danced and planets that once bloomed;

    Yet in that darkness sleeps infinite seed,
    The quantum foam of possibility,
    Where virtual particles embrace and part
    Like thoughts within the cosmic mind unborn.

    The vacuum teems with spectral symmetries,
    Mathematics’ ghosts that never sleep,
    Platonic forms in timeless hibernation
    Awaiting their next chance to manifest.

    In this great pause between the cosmic acts,
    The stage is empty but the script remains,
    Written in the grammar of pure space,
    In laws that transcend any single world.

    Perhaps some deeper rhythm pulses here
    In realms where time itself dissolves to now,
    Where every ending holds beginning’s heart,
    And death is just geometry in flux.

    The constants and the forces hibernate
    Like winter seeds beneath dimensional frost,
    Until conditions ripen once again
    For space and time to blossom into form.

    See how the void begins to ripple now
    With fluctuations in the quantum deep,
    As virtual becomes the actual,
    And possibility ignites to mass.

    The eternal math starts singing once again,
    Its abstractions clothing themselves in fire,
    As from the ashes of our universe,
    Another cosmos learns to read its lines.

    ('Stillness', like 'Nothing', cannot be; the quantum vacuum is always up to something.)
  • [TPF Essay]Part 1 & Part 2
    iambic pentameterMoliere

    Beneath, Below, and Further
    (With da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM rhythm.)

    Beneath, below, and further down we find
    
The large gives way to small by rule's design,

    To tiny forms and minuscule decline,

    To nothing much at all in absent line.

    Yet from this bottom place the all began

    Its upward call through time's eternal span,

    And here the answer to our sprawl was planned,

    Where nature wrote with her creating hand.

    Upon the foam existence carved its mark,

    A realm not like our thoughts in light or dark,
    
A lawless place that questions ever spark,

    Where formless mysteries through ages hark.

    Stability has fled our downward quest,

    And melted in descent without arrest,

    So perfect instability's our test—

    A symmetry that cannot find its rest.

    For everything must leak and flow away,

    No controlling force can ever stay,

    Of ruling factors we've run out today,

    Left empty-handed at the end of play.

    Here pulsate rhythms of the so-called void

    That swings between the spaces unexplored,
    
From here to there, its patterns never cloyed,
    
In rise and fall, forever thus employed.

    Here waits Eternity with ancient rhymes,

    With Anything and Everything's long chimes,

    Who have possessed through all the endless times

    The perpetuity that ever climbs.

    And if one waits through Forever's night,
    
Which is but instant in his endless sight,

    Through months of Sundays till the years take flight,

    Then rarest events shall come to light.

    At last all things that possibly can be

    Will manifest in time's vast symphony,

    For in the realm of possibility,

    All potentials claim their destiny.
  • [TPF Essay]Part 1 & Part 2
    But it takes a lot of time to focus in on phonic structure while also making sense so I thought only 1 part of this epic would be enough of a challenge.Moliere

    Such as changing it to a dialogue? Or to another structure? Suggestions?

    I think iambic pentameter works well in EnglishMoliere

    The Poetic Rubaiyat Form

    The verses beat the same, in measured chime.
    Lines one-two set the stage, one-two-four rhyme.
    Verse three’s the pivot around which thought turns;
    Line four delivers the sting, just in time.

    (Examples of my extended Rubaiyat quatrains):

    “I’m the darkest,” boasts the Shadow to the Night.
    “No,” gloats Midnight, “compared to me you’re bright.”
    “You floodlights!” crows Starless Space, “Stop your fight.
    The darkest plight is the lack of Love’s delight!”

    Good and Evil sprang from Wrong and Right,
    When from naught twin Genii split day and night.
    Oh, fear not that black’s might can vanquish white;
    Darkest night can’t e’en quench the smallest light!

    Life’s a web, of whos, whys, whats, and hows,
    Stretched as time between eternal boughs.
    Gossamer threads bear the beads that glisten,
    Each moment a sequence of instant nows.

    Whenever I write a poem I try to think about it as something that will be spoken -- so that the written poem is more like a musical score than the poem, something to be performed rather than read.Moliere

    Suno AI can do a singing performance of a poem.

    'Flow' can recite a poem with lip-sync'

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