• Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    I'm suggesting to use reason rather than faith(or lack of it) to weight risks of 2 choices where each choice has equal chance of probability.SpaceDweller

    The positions don't seem to be equiprobable. 'God' is not even close to having been established; Genesis in being wrong shows divine inspiration to be lacking; a composite, such as Mind or a proton cannot be First and fundamental, for its parts would have to be more so; the universe is full of unintelligent design and its progression is seen to be purely physical, from the simple to the more complex.
  • What is Nirvana
    How it is that Rovelli has quantum fields as exhausting reality as being relational?

    I suppose it is enough the Permanent can only form temporaries.
  • Philosphical Poems
    Thomas Chatterton,Michael Zwingli

    He died at 17 by poison. Keats at 25; Shelley at 29, leaving the great 'Triumph of Life' unfinished; Byron at 35, and more.
  • What is Nirvana
    What is Nirvana?

    In his new book, ‘Helgoland…’, about Quantum Theory, Carlo Rovelli notes that All is Relational, that no entity exists independently of anything else, so that there are no intrinsic properties at all, but only features in relation to something else, which is essentially what Nagarjuna means by ‘emptiness’ in his Buddhism. Further note that the universe and all that comes and goes in it is temporary.


    Relationism and Buddhism
    (Outline from reading Rovelli)

    Quantum fields form and exhaust reality,
    As partless, continuous—there’s no Space!
    Reality maintains itself in place
    As the net of objects interacting.

    Copernicus’ revolution’s complete;
    External entities aren’t required
    To hold the universe; God’s not needed,
    Nor any background; there is no Outside.

    Nor is there the ‘now’ all over the place.
    GR’s relational nature extends
    To Time as well—the ‘flow’ of time is not
    An ultimate aspect of reality.

    All is Relational: no entity
    Exists independently of anything;
    There are no intrinsic properties,
    Just features in relation to what’s else.

    Interactions and events (not things) are
    Quantum entangled with such others else;
    Impermanence pertains all the way through—
    What Nagarjuna means by Emptiness.

    There are no fundamental substances,
    No permanences, no bird’s-eye view
    Of All, no Foundation to Everything,
    Plus no infinite regress ne’er completed.

    The fields are not from anything—causeless!
    Or ‘not from anything’ is of lawless
    ‘Nothing’, which can’t ever form to remain.
    There is no reason, then, to existence.

    Hope’s Necessary ‘God’ vanishes!
    This realization of Impermanence,
    No Absolutes, and Emptiness,
    As all temporary, is Nirvana.
  • Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    RIP Notion of 'God'; It was never going to wash that the lesser had to be created by the greater, and so forth, ad infinitum…PoeticUniverse

    The Golden Template employed above had to be thrown out through the stain-glass window after its one and only attempted usage for showing 'God'.

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    The Permanent’s the one and only thing,
    As the ‘vacuum’, whose zero-point energy
    Isn’t zero, its point values tugging
    On each other and thus being quantum fields.

    We decompose it into harmonic
    Oscillators though a Fourier-transform,
    Each as a quantum harmonic oscillator
    Whose energy comes in quantized units.

    The lowest energy state is not zero.
    When we sum for all possible values
    We get an infinite result.

    When a theory is renormalizable,
    There’s a mathematically sensible process
    To discard the unwanted infinities
    But still account for finite differences,

    Which are responsible for observables;
    We may sum energies to some finite cutoff value,
    And use it to compute observable values;
    In the limit of the cutoff going back to infinity,
    The physical prediction doesn’t change.
  • Malus Scientia
    The Apple’s Return

    God, alone in His Power, had no fun,
    So He made Sapiens out of His One,
    Our image reflecting His Love’s Knowing,
    As His mirror of Divine Perfection.

    ‘God’s image reflects the mottled colors
    Painted by human artists upon the air
    Where the wormed apple was before the fall
    That rotted away truth’s tree of knowledge.

    Eden’s fresh market carried everything;
    The shiny red apples called from the Tree,
    “Touch me, take me, eat me”, and soon trouble
    Was at hand, although it was crispy, sweet.

    Shirking responsibility, The Blamer
    Cited humans as the culprits of his err,
    And cast them out of Eden, to this day—
    This evil being God’s own Original Sin.

    ‘Coerced’ is to follow God’s will—or burn,
    Thus feeding the Fires of Hell in turn,
    But humans had local laws long before
    Moses brought down the Ten of lore.

    Eden’s sinful Apple, causing our shit,
    Made for harsh apple cider, but when it
    Was heated with sulfurous brimstone it
    Soon turned smooth, the Hell taken out of it!

    Bless your soul with tongues of fire; Holy Spirit burn;
    Leave no trace of man’s desire; Holy Spirit turn.
    Oh, man, why detest thy constitution;
    Doth thou think Nature has a lot to learn?

    So Nature got it wrong, the pious say,
    In man’s constitution, erring its essay,
    Granting so many ways to go astray.
    Well, then, Who, do they say, penned this world’s play?

    ‘God’, Divine Human, and Spirit, to boot,
    All structured on wishes—what a hoot!
    Angels added, too, and Devils haunting.
    All as supposed, so, their doings are moot.

    ‘God’ changed His mind, so it would work better,
    From err of His deluge wet and wetter,
    Ne’er to kill again by water His kin;
    Jesus gave Original Sin’s Redemption.

    I found the Garden in the Amazon’s heart,
    Wherein lie massive fields of Lady’s Slippers
    And all of the rare flowers of Paradise…
    And there I put the apple back on the tree.
  • Philosphical Poems
    Not much going on here since the thread got moved to the lounge…

    What are angels, demons and spirit guides?

    They are Halloween!

    For Halloween Season

    She frowns, “Lo, the woods are growing dense, filling with mist and shadowed goods.”

    “What’s that fuss, behind us?”

    “An old witch has just sprung up, to our rear, she being the specter of fear, and of all that is worrisome here.”

    The witch asks, “What is your deepest fear?

    We don’t answer.

    The witch continues, “Do I ask of the air? Hell, death? Which shall it be? How about Heaven? Is that it? All three?”

    “I banish you,” I say, “for death is merely the natural end of all living things of nature’s blend. What has no death has no life principle! My turn to live would never have come about, to ripple, if it were not for the deaths before, of people. As for Heavens and Hells, those are what we create within ourselves, as we can turn our souls outside in, to create a Heaven or Hell from within. Hell surely arrives when we make our own difficulties, in life’s wake, when we our common sense forsake. However, I do have one fear that’s grown, although just one alone.”

    “What is that fear?, the witch pleads. “My hopes suddenly rise in pitch, but my form is ready to fade, for your anxiety unmade.”

    “My one and only fear besought is that of not living well, as ought! So, with that answer furnished, witch, you, the specter of fear must vanish, like the mist, cold, on the morning wind unrolled.”
    Reveal


    The Horrit Witch

    They take an overgrown side-path to the haunt of a known sorceress. The signs say ‘Enter All Who Welcome Death!’ but still they continue, for they need clues. The witch meets them at the outer gate and bids them to enter.

    They gallop to the entrance of the evil place but as they arrive they see her to be already inside, a trick, but enough to unnerve any squire who knows not of the use of doubles and twins. The abode is crawling with Tarantulas; it has the desired effect on Bogar and Hargrave. “Oh!” says Hargrave. “Woe!” says Bogar.

    “Do not believe all that you see,” whispers Percevale to the squires; “Merlyn has revealed many magic tricks to me.”

    “We seek Thorelf the Viking!” announces Hargrave.

    “Purchase the spear that bleeds, which you will never find.” reveals the witch. “It is but one link in a long chain that may strangle you or save you! And seek the land of ice and fire!—it is far to the north—there you may find Thorelf’s wake that will take you to him across the ocean desert of despair. And you, Percevale, you would have found love on a foreign soil—However, you will not survive to use the clues I have given you!”

    And with that admonition, all sink to their knees and thence to the floor, overtaken by the fumes coming from the witch’s pot. The fumes are not deadly, for the witch does not derive power from killing men, but only from controlling them.

    No, this witch rules by chemistry: the very air is drugged with gases. The price of information is sometimes dear, for she means to enslave them. The squires cry out as their heads fill with visions of demons and creatures so hellish as to defy description on this printed page. Logic and good sense are stilled, as terror reigns and begins to take over the squires’ souls.

    But, the King’s heart is tested and grown strong. Before reason escapes altogether, a calmness of thought occurs to Percevale: “if that which cannot happen, does indeed seem to be happening, then one must be experiencing a non-reality—a dream perhaps or something akin to it—”

    To test his theory Percevale closes his eyes. “Aha! The demons are still there.” They are but put in his mind, he realizes, and are hallucinations induced by potions, not really very different from night dreams.

    The Knight King arises calmly from the floor, ignores the visions, grabs the two squires, and exits the hovel, holding them firmly in the night’s embracing chill until their minds have cleared and their lungs are free of the witch’s potion.

    The witch’s slaves and legions are not allowed to follow, lest their minds be cleared as well. “Why is it,” thinks Percevale, “that those with second sight and such rare powers, those who could be so useful to the world, often fail to use their powers wisely. He turns and stands before the witch’s hovel and vows to someday find the power to return and destroy it!

    They ride through the night without sleeping, for their hearts are still beating quickly. The morning finally dawn on the squires and they see that nature is new and that the grass is now green. Renewal is at hand; nature is reinventing the world.



    The Rites & Wrongs of Spring

    The trio comes to a road that is blocked by the passing of a spring carnival. It is the annual “Rites of Spring Celebration”, doubly raucous this year because it also celebrates the recent victories of war. There are tumblers, troubadours, circus acts and the like, and it is well attended with drunken revelry.

    A vendor on Bogar’s right is selling sacred objects for unbelievably low prices and Bogar takes opportunity of the journey’s pause to investigate the bargains. His attention is first brought to a piece of the venerated wood of the true cross, brought here by the vendor himself after he had gone on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land and secretly excavated the hill of the Holy Sepulcher at night whilst a cathedral was being built over it. Bogar parts with some valuable coins and buys a worthless piece of wood.

    He also purchases a nail from that same cross. It is still incrusted with Christ’s blood. He buys also a portion of the actual crown of thorns, a shredded part of the tablecloth used at the last supper, a bone from St. Peter’s arm, a piece of the manger, some drops of the Virgins own milk sealed forever in a glass vial, and a tin cup used by Joseph of Aramithea to catch the blood of Jesus on that first Good Friday.

    Having spent all of his riches, he is about to return when he spots a golden box with a crystal lid, containing a purple cushion on which lays a piece of rusted iron, triangular in shape with a long sharp point.

    “This,” said the vendor, “is the tip of the spear that pierced the side of the Saviour!”

    After much consultation with Hargrave, Bogar obtains a loan and makes the final purchase. The riding junk-pile returns and Percevale examines the haul with horror.

    “Throw all of this rattling junk away!” the King insists.

    “But most of this is from the true and holy cross, sire!”

    “Squires,” replies Percevale, “I’ve seen enough pieces of the true cross to construct twenty fine sailing sloops of war and still have enough wood left over to build a bridge over the Usk river. What is that cup? Good God, we’ve found the Grail again! Fling it to that beggar by the creek who is sipping water with his hands!”

    The squires quail at the King’s rage and let their treasures fall to the ground, but the King is laughing on the inside at the squires’ folly and soon they all break into hearty laughter. But the laughing stops abruptly as they all notice that the box containing the spear tip is now quite full of blood.

    “Keep the spear tip,” replies Percevale with haste, remembering the words of the first witch, “and attach it to a fine and sturdy stick, for the Crimson Spear has been returned to me when I need it most.”




    The Curse of the Death-Crone

    As Percevale approaches the witch’s land, he sees the shield and helmets of those who came and died before him. He clutches the Crimson Spear close and continues his approach. “Now, Bogar, you wait here and if I do not come out within two days, then come in after me.”

    Percevale feels the watch of gloom as he enters the territory of the witch. Knowing that he is being watched, he does not turn around to alert the watcher, but slides quickly and unbeknownst into the woods at the next turn. Taliesin glides noiselessly, silent and invisible in Percevale’s mind!

    Percevale peers in a window and sees a pitiful sight. The witch’s slaves are from the world of the deformed and misshapen—those who are most easily enslaved, plus a Giant. Next, plans are made and a good night’s sleep is taken.

    In the morning a huge menacing giant blocks Percevale’s path, but there is something very human and caring, yet guarded, in the giant’s eyes. To test this theory, Percevale aims an arrow at the Giant’s dog, and the Giant pleads with Percevale not to shoot it. Apparently the giant is too large to fully feel the effect of the witch’s controlling drug, and Percevale speaks to the giant softly: “You could easily escape this witch’s spell and be free!”

    The Giant replies: “You are correct; I stay only to protect my misshapen friends from further harm, and indeed I will help you kill the witch if you will but insure the safety of my friends!”

    “I am King of Britain and the safety of all my subjects concerns me. Just keep your bewitched friends in check while I do battle with the witch and soon you shall all be free or I’ll die trying.” Such sincere words were very well understood by the giant.

    Now Percevale faces the witch, but not alone, for Taliesin has joined with him in mind, and the bleeding spear is at hand.

    “’Tis the accursed Crimson Spear for Avalon!” she cries. “Take it from my sight, I can not bear to look!”

    But Percevale holds it all the more firmly as she tries to wrench it from his grasp with the powers of her mind. She fills his minds eye with evil sights of monsters, but ever still does he hold the red shaft; it is now bleeding profusely and its blood is pooling on the ground. For a day and a night, the battle of the minds continues, Percevale and Taliesin barely holding their own and growing evermore weary, and feeling at each instant that they cannot last another moment.

    Meanwhile, no potions are being dispensed to the enslaved; they drink but the purest of water and so they are slowly regaining control over their lives. Towards morning, the battle draws to its climax as Avalon’s grandson is assaulted with every trick known to sorcery by Avalon’s daughter gone astray; but Taliesin has studied under the master Merlyn and Percevale has the strength of ten because his heart is pure.

    And then it is over. As the witch crumples to the ground, defeated at last, she finds those last ounces of strength that comes at the time of dying and uses it to place the curse of the Death-Crone upon our hero: “Percevale, from death’s doorstep, I, the Death-Crone, curse you with my last breath; I curse you with the worst misfortune that may befall a man: that you will never find love or be loved ever again—until rocks flow like water, until the day comes that the sun does not rise, until the new moon is seen with the naked eye, until the planet Mercury is seen at high noon, until fire is seen in water, until it snows in Cisalpine Gaul on a summer day, until all of the above events happen on the same day within a month from this very day! In other words, you will never ever find love or be loved!

    “So then, when these events do not happen, for they cannot happen and be seen by you, you will not only be unloved nor able to give love, but you will also find the world to be filled with hate towards you, and you will soon die and forever wear the foolscap of eternal shade, for no man can live for long without love!”

    The witch dies, the King is cursed, but the enslaved are free!

    No Hope for the Hopeless

    Bogar, forever dedicated, takes what is left of his master back to Camelot. Bogar notes the King’s despair and so Percevale tells him the tale of the witch’s curse. “I shall never succeed, Bogar, for most of the witch’s challenges are impossible; that’s the joke of it, I guess. She just threw in one easy one, ‘when rocks flow like water’ to give me false hope, for I do know of a place where rocks flow like water.

    “But no one has ever seen the new moon. Of course, the full moon is easily seen because it is completely lit on the side facing us and rises when the sun sets and is therefore up all night, but the new moon is just the opposite: it rises in the morning, is up all day, sets at evening, and is lit only on the side away from us. It has never been seen, Bogar!

    “Oh, we have seen the slivers of the very young and the very old moons, but the new moon gives no light at all, so, even if we see but a thin crescent moon, then by definition, it is not the new moon. Even if we knew where to look for it in the sky, which we do not, there would be the glare of the sun to contend with. Even the stars, which do give off light, cannot be seen in the daytime, even in areas of the sky not near to the sun.

    “And Mercury, being so close to the sun, can only be seen just before sunrise or just after sunset, but never at high noon! As for snow in late June or July in Southern Gaul, it is not likely and has never occurred.

    “And I have not yet known a day when the sun did not rise. Even on cloudy days we know that the sun has risen, for there is light behind the clouds. And fire in water! It cannot be. Water conquers fire, they cannot coexist. For any of the above to happen is impossible. For all of them to happen on the same day within a month is beyond impossible, yet, I will not give up hope for I know from Avalon’s Lady that all curses have an escape.”

    Percevale spends the day in the archives of Camelot with Taliesin. Then they spend all night in the Merlyn Tower Room, where they pore over old manuscripts full of diagrams But only this much becomes known: The new moon is to appear in two weeks—this fixes the day; and there is only one place where rocks are flowing like water—this fixes the place! There is hardly time to get there, so the King immediately leaves for Iceland.

    The Ice Maiden

    The chronicles covering the journey have not survived the ravages of time, so we find ourselves already close to Iceland. The sea is glorious and the air is fresh and pure. We do know that during the journey north, the twilight lasted longer and longer each day.

    There is not a moment to waste, but Percevale spots a vessel in distress behind him, and for a moment he wonders if he should take the time to come to its aid. But, there is no real choice, so he turns back and although her ship goes under, he manages to pull her from the depths and spends over an hour reviving her. And, even when revived, her lips will not part from his, for they have tasted each other and found it to be sweet.

    “I am cursed, you cannot love me,” says the Ice Maiden finally, who was named Dheryle. “I am sent to remind you of that which is forbidden to you! I have no choice; the spell overwhelms! You should have let me drown; then you would have had some peace. From now on, everyone you touch will catch the curse until the world fills with hate and destroys itself.”

    “So this is how it is going to be,” laments Percevale. “How I shall hate to give up life’s wonders when I am gone!”

    The Greatest Day on Earth

    But, this is to be the day of the new moon; at least there is a chance, thinks Percevale. They arrive on the shore of Iceland, and on this day, as on every day for a month either way in this northern land, the sun does not rise, for it did not set the day before, since it stays aloft all day during these two months of daylight! Just before noon, strange bands of shadows begin to rapidly cross the land and Percevale feels that perhaps the end is near.

    The ground begins to shake and heave for a few moments and then all is silent, so very silent as to strike one dumb. Something terrible seems to be happening. Grazing animals look for shade trees and lie down to sleep. Then, about noontime, the shadow of darkest night covers the land as the moon begins to kiss the sun and cover it—it is a solar eclipse! Merlyn’s old notes in the archive were accurate! Thank the gods for the old wizard!

    During the seven minutes of total darkness, Percevale sees a black disk in the sky, surrounded by faint wisps of flame—it is, of course the new moon in all her black glory; indeed, the new moon can only be seen during a solar eclipse, and never at any other time. There near the sun is a bright “star” that does not twinkle!

    It can only be the planet Mercury! Yes, there it is, in plain sight, at high noon. And farther out, Venus can be seen!

    Now the ground begins to really shake, and Percevale hurries to his ship with the Ice Maiden. They leave Iceland but see the volcano erupt; rocks are flowing to the sea like water! But, the water puts out the fiery flow and so they do not see fire in water, just a lot of steam.

    Then a tremendous plume of smoke and debris is sent up into the sky and is carried south by the unusual winds born of the marriage of summer warmth and ice cold air brought on by the blockage of the sun’s rays by the dense volcanic ash. The spontaneous cold front sweeps south to Gaul on the reversed upper winds, bringing the darkness of the ashen sky with it. As no sunlight can penetrate, the air below grows colder and colder, and what would have been rain now turns to snow over Cisalpine Gaul for a brief time before westerly winds can disperse the volcanic cloud around the earth.

    That evening the sun sinks low, but does not set. On the water is the glitter path of that fiery ball—and so we have fire in water!

    The sun has kissed the moon, and Percevale gathers the Ice Maiden, Dheryle, into his arms and kisses her, his capacity for love far from dead, but growing stronger every minute of this glorious day as both of their curses fall by the wayside.



    Back in Britain, at the shore:

    “There, Dheryle, over those hills, is the former abode of the witch. I must go there to see that all is well, so as to complete my quest that brought us together in the first place.”

    “Well bless her wretched soul! Come Percivale, let us walk the grounds on this late afternoon.”

    Moving through the glittering fields of daylight fireflies, they walk along the lake path, without words. Though still weary from sea travel, love’s energy carries them on its eagles’ wings, as being near to one’s life partner is contentment enough for anyone on a night in the Age of Darkness in the mid-summer.

    There is a strange chill in the air as the woods compel them to enter and share in its secrets on this day of magic.

    Church bells knell the toll of six o’clock from the nearby town. The sounds are muffled and distant because the air has suddenly grown heavy.

    “I think that we are not alone Percivale.”

    “Yes, the forest has many eyes and I have come to love them—and tonight I feel as if the air is filled with the magic, hopes, and dreams of all of the souls which have come before us since the dawn of time.”

    “There is a similar night in my country, during which these feelings of old, sealed in our souls, become known, and float in the air so that we might know of our dim and animal past. Hark! I see movement ahead, and in the trees!”

    They run to the spot, but the impish form is gone; however, the grass is yet bent and marks the small man-creature’s passing.

    “Hold me close, Percevale.”

    “I know this feeling! It is but the witch’s soul on its way to its final and eternal resting spot in hell’s heart. It’s gone now—I again feel the beauty and goodness of man—and only this can ensure the victory of wisdom!”

    The Giant appears.



    The Last Curse on Earth

    Percivale sits down to hear the Giant’s tale and the Giant begins: “The witch placed a curse on me as well. I will forever roam the earth in sadness if I do not accomplish the following by the end of this day: I must see the sun set three times in one day, and, I must, during daylight, create a dark space behind me that never ends. What will I do? I cannot stop the sun and raise it up again, nor can I cause the absence of light behind me and into the infinite depths of space!”

    Day is nearly done and the horizon is rising to meet the bloodshot eye of day. Percivale, having studied under the poet-astronomer, Taliesin, quickly leads the giant to the shore where a small piece of low hilly land juts out into the sea. They face to the west and view the setting sun, now a symbol of the sad giant’s dying hopes. The sun drops though some clouds and is bright again, but half of it is already below the horizon!

    “Look at your shadow, giant! How long is your shadow at sunset or sunrise? What is shortest at noon grows longer as the afternoon wears on, until finally, it stretches forever behind you, since you are directly between the sun and that which is behind you.”

    “That is fine Percivale, but the sun is nearly set and will certainly not rise again until the morrow. I must still see three sunsets!”

    “No time to explain now, giant. Quick! Lie down on the ground and see your first sunset today as the top sliver of the sun falls below, and is extinguished by, the horizon. See! There it goes. Now, quickly, stand up to your great height and what do you see?”

    “I see the tip of the sun again!”

    “And your second sunset of the day, giant?”

    “Yes! I see it, and another green flash as well!”

    “Now run up yonder hill and bring up the sun again so that it may set three times in a day!”

    The gleeful giant runs up the hill in great leaps and turns to see the sun set three, four, even five more times, each sunset lasting a few seconds.
  • Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    You might ask, then what's the sense in creating a similar universe?GraveItty

    Life going on in our universe is the Soap Opera Channel for the Divine Guys.
  • Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    The lounge area?GraveItty

    It's under categories to the left of this screen. Lounge stuff doesn't show up here.
  • Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    Hey! There you are again! What happened to the poems you posted in a thread about philosophical poems? Why did you delete it? :sad:GraveItty

    It's not deleted; they moved the thread to the lounge area.
  • Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    The notion of 'God' has already flunked out due to the impossibility of a composite being First and Fundamental. Not even the tiny proton could be Fundamental because its parts would have to be more so.

    The God notion flunks for other reasons too. The universe is full of unintelligent design; a big rock caused the Permian extinction that made the opening for mammals to evolve. There were other extinctions too, and perhaps another is coming.

    What, then is Fundamental instead of 'God'?

    The 'Existence Principle' that says that something has to be, with no option not to be, is applicable to what is the least, not to the greatest, as to what ever is as partless and continuous as the one Permanent thing made only of itself.

    Why does it spawn temporaries such as the universe, us, and 'particles' rather than not, it just sitting there not doing anything?

    Philosophically and scientifically, we note that it doesn't sit still; therefore it can't remain still, and so it is energetic.

    How does it form the temporaries, given that it can only be itself and not change into anything different than itself?

    It thus can only rearrange itself, as it must, being energetic, into the temporaries that come and go, some of them lasting for quite a while, as events, not things.

    Many proposed Fundamentals have fallen by the wayside, such as Newton's Absolute Time and Space and the idea of Absolute elementary 'particles' as themselves producing fields. What is left are quantum fields that produce the elementaries at stable rungs of energy quanta at those specific levels of excitations.

    We note this happening along with the upward progression of the universe from the simple unto the more complex doing what was supposed as God's job, naturally only, this necessarily taking almost 14 billion years up to now, with no magic therein, even at causality's great speed that is the speed of light, and still the continuing existence of humans is precarious.

    RIP Notion of 'God'; It was never going to wash that the lesser had to be created by the greater, and so forth, ad infinitum…
  • Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    But that doesn't touch the larger question of why anything exists at all.Wayfarer

    It can be touched by noting that the Something is, so either its alternative could not be here instead of it or it has no alternative; thus, it cannot not be, which is the first attribute we can get out of it.

    Second, since it has to be, it is the eternal existent.

    Third, what never begins or is timeless can't have any specific direction or design put into it.

    Fourth?
  • Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    Seriously, No. It's not enough to say something like "Him the be ending up the start" and say that suffices as a coherent remark.I like sushi

    It's still the minimum common basis of the notion of the Creator.
  • Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    Because no one can define 'God'.I like sushi

    It's enough to say God created the universe by using His Mind.
  • Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    But, ex nihilo and something from nothing doesn't have to be true, doesn't it, and we rely on the PSR through science to prove this!Shawn

    thanks. Yes, as I'm noting that 'Nothing' cannot be productive, much less be or even be meant; Thus this is the sufficient reason for the eternal base existent of necessity which both the God case and the non God case have to employ.

    In the non God case, it is simple, such as the 'vacuum', but in the God case it is not just a lot more than simple but infinitely more and thus infinitely impossible because not even any composite or complexity can be First.

    For further confirmation, we look to our universe and see that the lesser evolved to the greater over 14 billion years of Cosmic and Biological evolution.
  • Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    This would be the beginning of the path to disprove God, that 'Nothing' cannot be, making the base something not to be an option but mandatory, it having no alternative or opposite; thus, no supernatural magic is required.PoeticUniverse

    The next step in the analysis would be to have to use the same principle of 'The Necessary Existent' for God having to be, as the mandatory Existent, again because there can be no opposite; thus the principle is sound!

    You can figure what's coming next… I'm stretching it out in the hope that responders will notice it amid so many other responses.
  • Neither science nor logic can disprove God?
    God is not needed to explain why there is something rather than nothingShawn

    This would be the beginning of the path to disprove God, that 'Nothing' cannot be, making the base something not to be an option but mandatory, it having no alternative or opposite; thus, no supernatural magic is required.
  • Philosphical Poems
    Pale rugged Winter bending o’er his tread,
    His grizzled hair bedropt with icy dew;
    His eyes, a dusky light congeal’d and dead,
    His robe, a tinge of bright ethereal blue;
    Michael Zwingli

    I like autumn, too, and its portend of winter.

    OLD AUTUMN

    The glow-worms, fairy stars come down to ground,
    Gleam the shadowy woods through summer’s round;
    Then fall’s leaves flutter through the quiet air,
    The autumn being the sunset of the year.

    The rustling of the trees comes to my ear,
    In this,the most mellow time of year.
    The harvest brings fulfillment, yearning too,
    For autumn is both a smile and a tear.

    Each year in October Jack-in-the-Green
    Has a chilled rendezvous with Old Autumn,
    Who colors the leaves that Jack made verdant
    A season ago. They meet out in the woods,
    Although never in the same place, for seasons
    Come and go and meet each other as they may.

    Reveal
    This year Old Autumn was a little late,
    So Jack-in-the-Green sat down on a stump.
    Jack pondered his disappearing green youth,
    For someday he would have to take Autumn’s place
    And perform all of his withering tasks.

    A few days later Old Autumn came by;
    He gave unto Jack a cheery greeting
    And a warm embrace that marked summer’s end.

    He gazed fondly at Jack, his younger self,
    And saw the vitality that was once his,
    And said, “Once I was young; once I was you!”

    “I know,” said Jack, “Do you remember how
    I refused to believe you, saying ‘no’?”

    “Yes,” remembered Old Autumn, “very well,
    Like the time I met the Old Man, Winter
    On a snowy December day long ago.
    He told me that he was my older self—
    But I didn’t believe him! Told him off!

    “True, I was already feeling my age
    But after seeing the old white-haired geezer
    I felt young again! Yes, he knew me well.”

    “Right,” said Jack, “so I made a little poem:
    “When younger, I knew not my elder same,
    But when older I told my younger same
    That youth must be young; he knew not my name!
    It was my younger self who was to blame!”

    Swallows twittered in the skies as sprightly
    Jack-in-the-Green picked a ripening gourd
    And gave it to Old Autumn, who encouraged,
    “You won’t have to meet the Old Man until
    You take my place, for only I can see him—
    After I take down the last of the oak leaves.

    “For now, the Old Man sends but his errand boy,
    Jack Frost, your twin brother. Hi ho, here he comes!
    Aye, young Jack, this is the rarest of days,
    For the three of us can be together
    But once a year on this bright day / cool night.”


    “The Old Man is so lonely, is he not?”
    Asked Jack-in-the-Green, “for he sees only you.”

    “Yes. Old Man Winter lives cold and alone;
    He never sees the fair maidens of spring
    Who reinvent the natural world each year.”

    There is a chill in the air as Jack Frost arrives
    And sings out a greeting: “Hello my brother!
    Hello Old Autumn! It’s going to be cold—
    Our first frost, but don’t worry too much—
    It won’t harm the pumpkins any at all.”

    Old Autumn sighed and quick replied: “Good.
    Now the rest of the leaves will crack and fall
    All the more due to the ice in their veins;
    Yes, they’ll fall like the illusions of youth,
    ‘Lying carelessly on the granary floor’ and
    ‘On a half-reaped furrow sound asleep,
    Drowsed with the fume of poppies’, as Keats wrote.”

    Composing himself, Old Autumn continued:
    “And for those of you who think that ‘warm days
    Will never cease’, let us ever remember
    Dear Johnny Keats, who died so young, at 25;
    However, he lived and saw more than some
    Of us might hope to do in a lifetime.”

    A shiver ran through Jack-in-the-Green,
    Hence he said: “It’s cold; I must go now, for
    Summer passed away in his sleep last night;
    Autumn, sweet and plump, carries his offspring.
    The year dies in the night; ghostly winter looms;
    Lo; the flower is already in the seed.”

    “Well done, young Jack-in-the-Green; quick, go,
    For soon enough comes your autumn of care
    Sobering into age, thence into
    The pale white winter of death,
    Though not yet your warm indolent summer
    Of contentment lazing into middle-age,
    But surely past is our crisp,
    Flowering youth-spring of joy!

    “Such then, comes the end of summer’s dreams,
    The blanching of the grassy banks of streams,
    But all fragrances my elves remember
    Through their long sleep in the winter embers.

    “The blossoms fall, showers of fragrant beauty,
    As leaves fade, while the bulbs store up energy.
    Nature’s floral dreams grant this destiny,
    For these leavings enrich earth’s potpourri.

    “Flowers lay their heads to sleep in soft beds,
    Blanketed by webs of gossamer threads;
    My elfin creatures cast their spectral glow,
    As winter stars—floral twins—start to grow.

    “Later, when surely all the world is dead,
    An elf will stand atop Old Winter’s grave
    And say, ‘’tis not dead’, and by magic bred
    Make Snowdrops flower in the tomb’s heat wave.”

    Once I, the author, ventured outside at
    Four on a dark frosty October morning.
    It was so quiet that I could sense the
    Cosmos as it played rhythm to my beating heart.

    I saw a preview of the winter stars:
    Orion, you are so high in the sky—
    There for only the astronomer’s eye,
    As all those meteors go flying by.

    Then I heard a rustling sound in the leaves
    Around me—a skunk perhaps—but no,
    It was the sound of many falling leaves.
    I knew that it must be him, Old Autumn.

    He was out there somewhere. Then I sensed him
    Going by, for some of the leaves on the
    Tree right in front of me broke loose and
    Floated away, hitting some other leaves
    On the way down, making that rustling sound.

    Soon it started up on the next tree, and
    Then the next—and so I could very well
    Follow the path of Old Autumn making
    His rounds in the misty October morn.

    Chrysanthemums drank the mellow day,
    Falling petals carried the light away.

    The weed-flowers grew, marking autumn’s track,
    The blossoms that almost brought the spring back,
    But winter’s white death wrap was drawn over,
    Smothering the earth’s last warm sweet odour.

    The autumn fog enswirled, the mist upcurled;
    Into nothingness the wisp slow unfurled.
    November flew by, a colorless dearth,
    And December, amid death, a festive birth.

    Youth and Beauty made agèd Winter mourn
    For Summer’s grain—the waving wheat and corn,
    For Old Autumn, withered, wan, had passed on,
    Leaving the earth a widow, weather worn.

    Long since have the winds scattered the leaves
    Of the trees to make of them a
    Burial shroud for the flowers that died
    Grieving at summer’s passing. All is death.

    The fall is now nearly lost to memory.
    Winter is summer’s ungrateful heir,
    Squandering his riches and abusing his gifts.
    It’s not Old Man Winter’s fault, but his duty.

    Summer lies underground now, forgotten,
    Silent and crusty, covered by winter’s
    Stern mantle. Only April’s tears can make
    His grave lush again, in the spring-tide.

    As seasons pass, the world comes to our door:
    Spring sings through the wingèd troubadour;
    Summer calls with the rose, ’midst the wood-lore;
    Autumn crows, plump and sweet, through frosty hoar.

    Joy and exuberance are spring’s largesse.
    Sunlight, warmth, and growth are summer’s bequest.
    Autumn brings wealth with the mellow harvest.
    Winter’s fruit is peace—its bounty is rest.

    Past us is the flower of spring’s soft breath;
    Though not ended our summer of promise;
    Soon enough will come the autumn of care;
    Beheld, at last, the dull white shroud of death!

    March, April! spring! We’ll reign as we May there,
    Between June and her sister, September,
    Then prolong the fall, till November come
    December, when we can sweet Remember.

    In the whisperings of the after-years
    The winds of time slowly dry the tears;
    Nor would I take back a single drop, for
    From those tears the flowers grew without fears.

    In spring we rise from the garden at birth.
    Summer blooms long with the roses’ fresh mirth.
    Autumn creeps in—we wither on the vine.
    Last comes winter, when we return to earth.

    ————

    Drive my dead thoughts over the universe, 
    Like wither'd leaves, to quicken a new birth;

    And, by the incantation of this verse,
      Scatter, as from an unextinguish'd hearth
     Ashes and sparks, my words among mankind!
     
    Be through my lips to unawaken'd earth
     The trumpet of a prophecy! O Wind,
    If Winter comes, can Spring be far behind?

    Percy Bysshe Shelley
    English poet (1792 - 1822)
  • Do You Believe In Fate or In Free-Will?
    We know that the will is usually free to operate, but that doesn't make one 'free' in any deep and non-trivial sense. The will is fixed to what one's brain repertoire has come to be up to that moment. The fixed will is the brain using its knowledge to provide future.

    Though learning and experience we may enlarge the depth and range of our successive fixed wills through our ongoing choices if we are not truly too stuck to learn, but, again, the fixed will is ever consistent with who we've come to be. There is no being 'free' of the will; it does as it must.

    The universe does us, not some other way around such as we somehow being mini first causes with no input. You will find that no one can ever really say what the 'free' in 'free will' is supposed to be free of, but for coercion, which, too, would have been determined.

    While occasional 'random' or chemical brain mistakes would make events come out differently than they were meant to, this doesn't help the will but hurts it.

    I have been describing a linear mode of time, but a block universe of Fate would do the same.
  • Philosphical Poems
    This is a reasonable request. I'll look at what the others have written and see if I have anything to add.T Clark

    Good news! Thanks.

    On the lengthy and plenty point, that's fixed, plus I've found a way to reference longer poems by just pointing to a link that downloads a PDF hosted on one of my websites, such as the whole of the 'Flora Symbolica' poem about the lore and legends of the plants and flowers:

    text: https://austintorn.files.wordpress.com/2021/07/flora-symbolica-text-8.5x11.pdf

    illustrated (may take a minute to arrive):
    https://austintorn.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/fsi-17x11-jpg-jpg-150-dpi.pdf

    video (long): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOZknZJNA2U
  • Philosphical Poems
    We all have, upon occasion, intense inner experiences associated with places, events, or situations, which we cannot seem to describe adequately to make another person feel what we have felt, and understand what we have understood. A great poet is able to use language in a manner which recalls such experiences, and makes one think, "yes, I have experienced that, but could never describe it". It is the experience upon reading a poem of finding the expression for something profound that one has experienced but never been able to describe. This experience upon reading a poem tends to give someone the "fifty mile stare", and makes a person feel a need to say "...thank you so much..." to the poet.Michael Zwingli

    Yes, that's it, and you are a helpful discusser.

    What you said about "something profound" as the basis for poetry can be described by poems about poetry:

    A poem is a truth fleshed in living words,
    Which by showing unapprehended proof
    Lifts the veil to reveal hidden beauty—
    It’s life’s image drawn in eternal truth.

    Poetry dresses the phantasmic new
    By enshrining the apparition’s brew,
    Captured and bottled as aquavita,
    Wisdom’s pearls, from the evanescent dew.

    Poetry lives silently in an illustration;
    A poem’s beauty is its painting with diction.
    These, like music, are works of worldly art,
    Just shadows of a deeper perfection!

    Poetry makes clear what is barely heard,
    For it translates soul-language into words,
    Whereas, melody plays straight on the heart;
    Merged, they create song; heart and soul converge.

    Poetry makes immortal what is best
    In life: it frees images of dreams impressed,
    Apprehends the vanishing phantasms,
    And sends them forth in fine words, fully dressed.
    ('fully dressed' phrase borrowed from someone)

    The Rubaiyat Poetic Form

    The verses beat the same, in measured chime.
    Lines one-two set the stage, one-two-four rhyme.
    Verse three’s the pivot around which thought turns;
    Line four delivers the sting, just in time.
  • Philosphical Poems
    Now physics is nice. Your poems are a welcome addition to it! Are you a physicist yourself? Of course your poems lack humans, as it subject matter is the universe. The Poetic Universe. There is reference made to human affairs.GraveItty

    Thanks for discussing. Yes, many of my poems are meant to convey scientific and the philosophical themes in a non dry manner in digestible stanza chunks. I'm not a physicist but I understand it enough to interpret it for the lay reader. Your physics posts in other thread are as excellent as I've seen anywhere; you even understand the math, too, so your reviews will be helpful. I involve humans in other poems.
  • Philosphical Poems
    is best written with great deliberation and attention to meter and, if applicable, to rhyme.Michael Zwingli

    That is my main style, not a stream of consciousness, but in ten syllable quatrains that take quite a while to rhyme without the rhyme being an intrusion, plus to package a pearl in each stanza, making them easy digestible units of the whole poem, as in the one referenced, plus 'Flora Symbolica' intro, and more, near to those in this thread when Amnity was responding. "Intellect" often shows in very philosophical poems as much as it does in philosophy.

    I don't use stream of consciousness; the poems don't come out that quickly. I don't aim for free verse either. Poetry requires more work than what can just go plop in just a live stream of thoughts arising.

    Perhaps Mr. Clark might also add or rewrite a stanza in the referenced poem to show how it could become good poetry beyond its already lyrical, rhyming, metered form that you say he likes, but, first, let us see what he says this second time around of being asked to bolster his bare generalization about the 'Worldly Love' poem. How did you like it? Are you also still claiming '18'?

    (Explaining the poetic style only):

    A long time ago I read all of Shelley’s poems,
    He being a scientific romanticist known,
    Who plumbed the depths of mystery,
    And too Keats and Byron, as eagerly,

    They being the romantics of the Earthly realm,
    Along with Omar Khayyam, at Sultan’s helm,
    A romantic scientist who invented algebra,
    As well as cherishing all of nature above Allah.

    Omar was as Mr. Spock’s logic,
    But with the glory of life added to it,
    While Shelley was more of Dr. McCoy’s
    Excessives of emotional, romantic ploys,

    But Keats and Byron were more
    Of a blend, like Captain Kirk’s sure
    And dashing action tempered with reason—
    A man for each and every season.

    So, I ended up writing poems in the styles
    Of Shelley’s and Old Khayyàm’s wiles,
    The former being flowingly lyrical—
    The latter twistingly epigrammatical,

    Short ones at first, very precise,
    But also using them as a concise
    Way to whittle down entire books
    To the few gems and pearls in their nooks.

    So now after many educated years,
    I still use them to boil down the idears.

    (Anyway, no more epics, as being too long for the readers, plus they are not easy to do.)
  • Philosphical Poems
    I can see that your poetry is heart-felt and sincere. It's romantic, which is fine. It is also philosophical, as the OP specifies. But it is not good poetry.T Clark

    Amnity asks: What is wrong with it ? Constructive criticism, any ?

    Any specifics concerning "But it is not good poetry?" to make your generalization helpful?

    Here is the poem: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/599584
  • Philosphical Poems
    deal?Michael Zwingli

    I can agree to not posting any more lengthy poems.
  • Philosphical Poems
    The God of the Old Testament

    Of all my rotten luck,
    The God of the Old Testament
    Appeared and proclaimed,
    “I am Yahweh, never absent,
    For those schooled from infancy
    In My strange ways
    Have become desensitized
    To My horrific side,

    “And so they continue to
    Keep Me very much alive,
    Through their thoughts;
    So, fire away at Me;
    I no longer bite that hard, you see.”

    “You’re too easy of a target to attack for free—
    So it would be rather unfair of me.”

    “True, and I won’t deny it—
    It’s all there in the Testament.
    I was the most unpleasant character
    That anyone ever made up in literary fiction.

    “I was revealed to be jealous and proud of it,
    Petty, unjust, controlling, vindictive,
    An ethic cleanser, genocidal, infanticidal,

    “Filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal,
    Homophobic, misogynistic, sadomasochistic,
    And much more, and a Bully—who gave it
    Free will only if it matched My own Will.”

    “Peace be with you.
    How about the New Testament
    To replace and hide Your scent,
    As many religions have already
    Done through Jesus sent?”

    “Yes, that Testament is quite opposite in tone,
    But I am still the Father of Jesus sown,
    So the problem of Me can never really go away.
    I am what I was, still here unto the present day.”

    “Well, so long. You’re the worst role model yet
    That human mammals have ever dreamed up.
    Who would imitate, emulate,
    Or follow You as a ‘leader’?”

    “Well, My followers are those numerous slaves
    Who excuse my mysterious [insane] ways,
    Along with my exclusive desert tribe.”

    “Well, You’re the Boss, and, anyway,
    Who ever said that a God
    Had to be perfect and good?”

    “Everyone that I told—
    And those who thought I should.”

    “Oh well, never mind; whatever pleases.
    So, um, Joseph was not
    The biological father of Jesus?”

    “No, I was.”

    “So Jesus really did descend from David?”

    “That was on his mother’s side.”

    “Well, my ancestors descended from the trees.
    Hey, why don’t Catholics get the 72 virgins
    That Islam gives for martyrdom for their sins?”

    “I told each religious faith a different story.”

    “You also gave a bible half-different
    To the Mormon founder,
    Joseph Smith, finely engraved
    On golden plates he discovered?”

    “Sure. I thought at the time ‘why not’.”

    “You had Islam add different things
    To their Koran as well?”

    “Yes of the many more ways to avoid Hell.”

    “And You told only the Catholics
    That there were umpteen levels of angels
    And that bread was your body
    And that wine was your blood?”

    “Yep, I told just them and a few other selves,
    But they made up the Saints themselves.”

    “And You presented differing visions
    To the Lutherans,
    The Episcopals, and the Jewish,
    And to many other also-rans?”

    “Pretty much,
    Except that a King of England
    Founded the Episcopals—
    The Anglicans, of course,
    Since his own religion
    Wouldn’t give him a divorce.”

    “And you killed everyone but Noah
    And his family in the Great Flood, wet,
    Even young children and their pets?”

    “Sure, again, why not? Life is cheap.
    However, My creation of the rainbow
    Says that I’ll never be so cruel again.
    What can I say—I goofed. My sin.”

    “But You are infallible, and even omniscient
    And so You know all of the future meant.
    You even broke your own commandments!”

    “My omnipotence of changing my mind
    Got in the way.”

    “But your omniscience knew you would…
    One day.”

    “Yeah, I know—it’s a paradox; oh the strife.
    And I can still technically end all life,
    By means other than a flood.”

    “You burned people in Hell, not saved,
    When they didn’t follow
    The unfree will that you gave?”

    “Yes, because I was not a loving God.”

    “Well, God, who made You?”

    “No problem—either I was Eternal or I made Myself”

    “This is remarkably the same, but for Thee,
    As the Universal ingredients would be.”

    “Then who would need me—wait,
    I don’t want the answer told.”

    “Is the Earth only about 4000 years old?”

    “Of course not but I may have let that slip to some,
    To tease their intelligence apart from being dumb.”

    “Do you mind-read
    The thoughts of every human,
    Using all of your acumen,
    And write the earthly script for each event,
    Being so omnipresent?”

    “I tried that at first, but it didn’t work for Me
    To put my finger on every atom that be,
    To micromanage its doings for all of thee.”

    “That’s called ‘God’s Will’,
    By some, even now.
    What went wrong?
    Was it the where and how?”

    “It disrupted the atoms’ normal
    And natural movements.”

    “And that’s what caused the storms unfocused,
    The lightning bolts and the plagues of locusts?”

    “Yes, so I stopped making such a mess of things.”

    “So the prayers of six million Jews pleaded
    In the holocaust went all unheeded?”

    “Yes, plus I have better things to do, in time,
    My sooth,
    Than look after some old experiment of Mine
    From my misspent youth.”

    “Did you really make Adam and Eve
    And all of Earth and Nature, as we believe?”

    “Yes, I made Nature,
    Including the humans, in My image.”

    “It shows in their rage.”

    “Thank you.”

    “God, it’s ID deja-vu all over again—
    I really have to move on.”

    “No, wait. I like your questions.
    I’m mellower now, this being My new direction.
    Not as many strictly admit to Me anymore.”

    “How come so many of the gospels were omitted
    From the New Catholic Testament,
    Like those of Thomas, Peter, Nicodemus,
    Philip, Bartholomew, and more,

    “As well as whole books kept from us,
    Although You told some other religions to keep them,
    Such as the Book of Revelations?”

    “Those gospels were embarrassing and wild;
    They told about My Son doing magic tricks
    And practical jokes on people when He was a child.”

    “Oh, we never heard much about his youth.
    And didn’t You send the Mormons proof
    That Jesus spent an early era
    In what was to become America?”

    “Probably.”

    “What about the trillions of galaxies in the sky?”

    “They’re just for show and scenery on high.”
    “Where’s all your rantings and ravings
    That I’ve heard about?”

    “I now take Prozac for
    My mood swings and bouts.”

    “You don’t really exist, do You, as mental,
    For how could You have an emotional system—
    As composite—and still be absolute and fundamental?”

    “No, I don’t exist,
    For how could I since I am so horrible?
    Human mammals made all of Me up
    As a very bad example,

    “As it turned out, from their many fears
    In the childhood of their species’ years.
    Unfortunately, it caught on to their children’s ears.”

    “So, yet You still subsist
    In this indefinite locus of wishes?”

    “Yes, sort of.
    I am sustained here since many children
    Have learned to obey and listen
    To what is-was told to them,

    “For this obeying was an
    Evolutionarily useful thing,
    As many of their obediences
    Resulted from warnings of things

    “That were truly dangerous,
    And so the children grew up
    To indoctrinate their own children
    In all the ‘knowledge’.”

    “We’ll have to offer more reason
    To those so indoctrinated.
    Now farewell to You, the impersonated.”

    “See you. Pay no attention to Me as certain,
    But to all those blinded by the curtain.”

    He soon dozed off into never land.
  • Philosphical Poems
    The God of the Agnostics

    I came next upon a God sitting on a high fence,
    And waved to Him, saying
    “Come down and talk the whence.”

    “I can’t; I am stuck here, but Salutations to you.
    I am the God of Agnosticism, one neither false nor true.
    None of the agnostics know if I exist or not,
    So here I must stay put a lot,

    “Along with the Tooth Fairy,
    Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny,
    Just in case we all might exist or not,
    As a quadzillion-to-one shot.”

    “Why can’t agnostics make up their minds?”

    “My followers cannot even make or see
    Probability judgments about the question of Me.
    This is the limitation of agnosticism,

    “Perhaps the error of no consideration
    Of the likelihood of that for which evidence seeable
    Is not even the least bit conceivable.”

    “It is a fallacy; what I call the poverty of agnosticism,
    Because though being agnostic is reasonable criticism
    For some things, such as whether life exists elsewhere,
    It is not appropriate for those things undoable,

    “For which the idea of evidence is not even applicable;
    However, actually, we can actually still talk
    About the probability of the event,
    While even going for a walk.

    “The true fallacy, however, is that the existence ever,
    And the nonexistence of You never,
    Are not even on an even footing to begin with.
    The two are not at all equiprobable cases.

    “The burden of proof lies with the believers,
    For anything that we can conceive of
    Can be claimed to exist, as that we love,
    Such as ghosts, spirits, and such forth.

    “Are we then to straddle a fence that has no worth?
    And, never seen. So, then, at the end of the day,

    “Probability creeps into the beliefs of the agnostic way,
    For in practice they end up in the lurch,
    Not going ‘half the time’ to Church,
    But mostly deciding not to go at all.”

    “Yes, they still decide that which is ‘undecidable’,
    For the fence is very uncomfortable
    And so then the superposition

    “Decoheres into the inclination
    Of non belief—until, right here,
    The Extraordinary’s evidence appears.”
    He came down off the fence,
    For he couldn’t exist and not exist at the same time.
    I continued on through the undulating hills.

    (We can refer to the fence sitters as non theists
    In order to get away from labels like ‘agnostic’
    Which might imply that the probability of thinking
    God or not is on some kind of equal footing;

    Plus that the fence sitters don’t really stay
    On the uncomfortable fence but usually…

    Go one way or the other way
    In life’s practice of the everyday,
    Although some might go to church
    On alternating Sundays.

    In between, perhaps they go
    On wild picnics with their sweetie
    And drink wine and do all that ‘bad’ stuff,
    That we can’t say here, while waiting for some
    Extraordinary evidence to appear.

    I will soon have a talk with
    Old Jehovah Yahweh’s Thee.
    He’s not so terrible as many
    Have made Him up to be,
    But then again He’s not
    So great either—He’s quite off,
    Just another poor middle manager
    Caught up in the layoffs.

    I already spoke to the Deity
    The God who doesn’t ever interfere
    In the running of the universe.

    The Pope doesn’t know it here,
    But a Deity is what he’s
    Leaning toward when he says then
    That evolution is acceptable now
    For Catholics to believe in (no mind).

    The Deity Guy was
    Actually kind of a great scientist.
    And I already met with
    The Creationist’s ID God,
    Who while still a Designer
    Is, well, not so cool at all, either,

    For He gets back to what
    The Fundamentalists believe,
    And neither, they would say,
    Did evolution happen,
    Or if it did ever function,
    God constantly stepped in
    To rectify its direction.

    I haven’t really begun
    To scratch the surface of all the Gods,
    Though, for so many lie now beneath the sod.

    I’m only interested in
    The person-type Gods of monotheism,
    And I’m hardly even getting
    Through those variant theisms
    That fight amongst themselves
    Over Jesus’ divinity, or if there is a Hell,

    Or a Devil and some Angels about thee,
    And over so many more
    And other major differences, totally.

    Then there are the multiple Gods,
    Now up in the millions,
    And the many Gods-who-are-not-persons,
    Plus the TAO, the Consciousness,
    And some way-out Ones.

    There are also hundreds
    Of long gone, ‘sure thing’ Gods,
    Which I needn’t get into,
    Except to wonder, and say:
    Is that how the future will
    Look at our Gods of today?

    I can also skip the many
    Weird offshoots that persist,
    Like those saying that
    The self is not allowed to exist,
    Even calling it ‘ego’ to make
    It seem so much worse;
    I don’t have time for these
    And other cult-level verse.)
  • Philosphical Poems
    The Deity

    Another God appeared, a mere Deity,
    Meaning no intervention, so He’s not a Theity,
    And thusly said, “Forget the Theity solution.
    I am the Smart God who seeded Evolution.

    “It was I that set the whole universal notion
    And all of life’s evolution into motion;
    That was My elegant and foreseeing way
    Of creating the kind of life that would stay.”

    “I thought You were all powerful;
    Why not just make 20-40 million species,
    All fully formed, as immutable as Thee,
    Along with their usable natural habitats,

    “For this is how most Gods would do it.
    What energy loss could that be to You?
    Your infinity could all this in an instant do.”

    “I’m not so Great, plus, since Evolution is too stable
    For some creationists to scoff at, as a fable,
    They have assigned the job to Me, the Creator,
    As all of Nature’s natural Instigator,

    “Because they must take retreat from the first ID God
    Who zooms souls into humans at birth—it’s so odd.
    So, now I am not a Theity any more of proof,
    And thus I must ever remain aloof.

    “Of course, now I have very little to do,
    And so I am not much needed, true,
    For I can’t even muddle with their lives;
    They are all stuck now with their wives.

    “I might really just as well retire,
    For I am superfluous and tired.”

    “Well, You’re still kind of close to our Universe,
    Not completely outside it, the place the worst,
    As I suppose your successor will have to be placed,
    Absolutely, totally invisible to the human race.

    “At least You made some
    Basic primordial substance,
    And foresaw the billion years
    Of combinatorial chance,

    “Predicting every turn,
    Or at least knowing that something neat
    Might probably come out of it,
    Which was still quite a feat.”

    “Thank you, but it was nothing.”

    “On the contrary—I say verily—
    You’re the Super Scientist,
    An Engineer Par Excellence—
    The Ultimate Inventor of All Time—
    Much better than than the old God of ID.”

    “Yes, I am a Scientist, making all that’s real—
    I Had to be, but it was really no big deal.”

    “You’re too modest.”

    “It was just some little quarks,
    And some electrons that I sparked,
    And some forces that arose,
    As reality was composed.”

    “But look what became of its simplicity—
    Through its stages, to astounding complexity,
    Over billions of years of circumstances;
    We’ve traced the composites to simple substances.”

    “Well, um, it did really take that long for My intention,
    By some coincidence, the same as that for evolution;

    “However, I guess I’m just as surprised as you, frown,
    That when some examine substance and get down
    To these simple subatomic levels of unadorned things,

    “That they then take a giant leap back, of all things,
    To the composite complexity of Me, the Ultimate.”

    “Isn’t complexity a much higher product
    Of combination upon combination,
    And thus not lower than simplicity itself?”

    “Yes, it would seem so; that’s a near empty shelf.”

    “Then I suppose You’re some Great Alien Scientist, odd,
    Highly evolved from somewhere, but not really God.”

    “True, and you, Austin, as a scientist,
    Should seek what underlies the all,
    Not some Great Complexity who oversees it,
    For that’s for what the theory calls.”

    “Wise thoughts.”

    “The best that can’t be bought.”

    “Well, whatever on the alien thing of it,
    But the creationists are not keen on scientists,
    For scientists regard the honest seeking after truth
    As a supreme virtue beyond all reproof.

    “If they ever found out…”

    “Yikes, they know not what they have made Me.
    As a Scientist Myself, I truly value honesty
    And skepticism over the dishonestly faked beliefs,
    Those that only seem to bring Rolaid’s relief.”

    “The Founding Fathers of America liked You,
    Although some of them, as Thomas Jefferson too
    Were outright non theists, many seeing You as a Deity
    Who just started things up,
    never interfering with reality.”

    “Funny how President Bush’s and Trump's America sings,
    Straying so oppositely from its humble beginnings.”

    “Not to mention that some the world’s peoples, really,
    Are squandering their precious time
    Worshiping a Theity, and sacrificing to Him,
    Begging, fighting, and dying for Him,

    “Even threatening the world with its destruction.”

    “What a waste.”

    “Are you real?”

    “No, I am but a figment of imagination, see,
    But some really do like harmless old Me.”

    “So what’s really fundamental?”

    “The real fundamentals, just below
    What you now call ‘fundamentality’,
    Have always existed—the quantum reality.”

    “There’s perhaps no time of ‘forever’
    At that level for Your ‘always’ ever.”

    “True, they just are, and had to be—the possible,
    For a state of absolute nothing is indeed impossible.”
  • Philosphical Poems
    The God of the Gaps

    Yet another Theity appeared, out of the mist.

    “I am the God of the Gaps, of all those missed.
    I Myself personally fill in all the gaps withstanding,
    In the present-day knowledge of non understanding,

    “Albeit a very large and unwarranted assumption,
    But I surely do fill them all in—via the fiat lent
    To Me by the creationist’s fine endorsement.”

    “These gaps shrink as science advances anew.”

    “And so there is less and less for Me to do.”

    “What worries me is not so much that You
    May be eventually laid off, having nothing to do,
    But that those of Religion think it is a virtue
    To be satisfied with not understanding a quandary;
    Enigmas drive scientists on—they exult in mystery.”

    “True, My believers exult in mystery
    Remaining as mystery and so they go no further,
    But it keeps Me from being history!
    They worship all these evolutionary gaps as being Me.”

    “With no justification?”

    “We have a ‘get out of jail free’ card—a vocation;
    It’s an immunity to
    The rigorous proofs of science;
    We just claim by the ‘say so’.
    All must respect that stance.”

    “You lead a charmed life then,
    One with no faults,
    But You seek ignorance
    In order to claim victory by default,
    As a weed thriving in the gaps
    Of science’s fertile fields.

    “Scientists rejoice in (temporary)
    Uncertain yields,
    Whereas You halt all inquiry.”

    “I remain as a mystery.”

    “You’re the same God
    Of Intelligent Design assumed—
    Now known by a much more
    Desperate nom de plume.”

    “I repeat that I intervene
    To fill the evolutionary gap.
    I even alter DNA.”

    “We could check the evidence for that.
    We researchers fill the gaps in the fossil record.”

    “Then there are twice as many gaps. Absurd.”

    “I’d laugh, but I know You’re not joking.”

    “No joke. Try what we’ve been smoking.
    Lack of 100% complete documentation
    Of Evolution means that I aid its motion.”

    “‘God’, that is not a good default stance.”

    “It’s an unknown happenstance.”

    “So do we let criminals go
    Because we don’t have a video
    Of their every intermediate foot step
    To and from the lawless event?”

    “No, of course not, but we now have great worry
    About our precariously perched gappy theory.

    “Also, you made a typo—it’s a God default stance,
    Certified by nothing more than proclamation
    Of Our Bull of Decree covering all instantiation.”

    “An edict, huh.”

    “Why not, duh.”

    “It was also once avowed that an Evil Spirit,
    One that You Yourself allowed to exist,
    Produced physical illnesses, on us weighing,
    But, thank God—just an old saying—
    That scientists persevered, and still do,

    “Such as finding out the immune system’s zoo—
    Our defense against the non evil spirits
    Of germs, viruses, and bacterial fits.”

    “Yes, agreed; that claim was dead wrong; take pills,
    But evil spirits still cause the nonphysical mental ills
    That are called sins and bad thoughts,
    Even crimes of wills.”

    “Still trying to halt scientific inquiry,
    I see, for the burning.
    Mental lapsing ‘sins’
    Stem from upbringing, wrong learning,

    “And/or low serotonin and
    Such imbalances, needing cures,
    Not to mention the differences in cultures,

    “Such as other religions
    Causing a problem of stability,
    For people think this undermines
    Their own belief’s credibility.”

    “Okay, I give up for now, AustinTorn. Be.
    Go on with your work, with My blessing,
    To discover important truths about reality,
    But some fossils are evidently missing!”

    “Only a tiny fraction of corpses fossilize;
    However, not even a single fossil guy
    Has shown up in the wrong geological stratum;
    How’s that for absolutely no erratum?”

    “Well… it’s sad for Me, but true.
    I’d still love to find wrong a few,
    Like a fossil rabbit in the Precambrian.
    I’d have planted one there if I existed then.”

    “Dream on. Lazy reasoning is all that’s behind
    These declarations of the irreducible complexity kind.”

    “Yes, but all this ignorance, for sure,
    Of the possible steps of Nature
    Has kept Me forever alive,
    Allowing Me to ever thrive.”

    “And has just as soon forgotten You, in truth,
    But for those sustaining your being without proof.”

    “Wait, what about an arch of bricks?
    I’ll try to use this one as a trick.

    “Pull one away and the arch falls apart;
    It cannot survive the subtraction of a part,
    So how then was it built in the first place?
    With this insight, I can win the human race.”

    “By scaffolding, the same as seen in Evolution.”

    “I was afraid that would be the solution.”

    With that, the holely God of the Gaps separated
    And nearly evaporated
    To become a discontinuity Himself,
    But the creationists gave Him help
    By trying to hold Him together
    With their ditch efforts.

    (Yes, ‘gapping’ still goes on, it seems.
    When the argument first gathered steam,
    There were but a few transitional forms known,
    Although good ones, enough for the idea to own,

    One being the bridge to vertebrates
    And another the bridge to flying creatures.
    But there are many more now, a wide range,
    So then it is the data that has changed.

    These ‘gap’ arguments were already down
    To the faint hope that scientists, as clowns,
    Wouldn’t find any more natural explanations;
    But the finds were the most inevitable situations.

    Creationists yet remain at the pointward
    Of not being able to ‘push forward’,
    So all that’s left to is push backward,

    Albeit at the firmly established fact words
    Of evolution. Even the Pope concedes this
    But tries to salvage the faith and solve,
    By saying that the mind was not at all involved.)

    “In the darkness I alit from the Wiz,
    And tried to make sense of this world of His.
    Now I’ve found the answer to life’s dark quiz:
    One must live this life by what light there is.”
  • Philosphical Poems
    The God of Irreducible Complexity

    “Hello, Austino; it’s time for more perplexity,
    For I am now the God of Irreducible Complexity.”

    “That you are, being the unmade All,
    And so it shall become your downfall.”

    “Eh? I’m never to be at all?”

    “Your believers have given You some fine new clothes:
    But Intelligent Design is falsely based, God knows,
    On Irreducible Complexity—
    So I still recognize You as the God of ID.”

    “That I am is what I really am now.”

    “Well, Darwin said long ago that his theory
    Would break down if Irreducible Complexity
    Were shown to be true, and yet
    No proposal has ever stood up to the analysis.”

    “Still, here I am, Mr. A, alive merely by possibility,
    Myself indeed quite complex, even irreducibly,

    “For “I am the be all and end all—the Prime Maker,
    And so I keep tabs on every form and splinter
    Of the Universe, planning its every constituent
    That I designed. So then, simple I am NOT.

    “Yes, man, I am an extremely complicated System,
    Yet I have no parts, for then My parts that stemmed
    Would be even more fundamental than Me!”

    “Yes, ‘God’, if You existed you would surely be
    Very very very complex, irreducibly so…”

    “…So…”

    “…So, by the Creationist Theory, such as it must be,
    You cannot be explained except by a larger ID.”

    “I’m falling…”

    “…Into the hole that they dug for you.”
  • Philosphical Poems
    The Intelligent Designer

    I approached a semitransparent,
    Theistic Embellishment, quite well lit,
    Who was holding out an eyeball—a shove
    Of His hand for me to take note of.

    “Who might you be?” He mimed,
    “For I am the God of Intelligent Design,
    The One who was made by the signs discerned,
    When the creationists noted them all, unlearned.”

    I answered, “I am Austin, Earth’s flower,
    Although not ‘Powers’, but ‘Higher Powers’.”

    “Ha. Lo, they saw inexplicable complexity in Nature,
    And thus they leapt and promulgated that Nature
    Must have a Grand Designer of its mechanical dance,
    For how could life have come about by ‘chance’?”

    I replied, “You’re right about ‘chance’s’ stance,
    But wrong about ‘chance’ too, for little greatness,
    If any at all, comes about by mere ‘chance’,

    “Especially as some giant leap in one bound,
    Up the sheer cliff-side of Mt. Improbable—
    To find on its top a great complexity
    Of something like the eye that You show me;

    “However, it is actually an error to suppose
    That ‘Chance’ is the scientific alternative
    To Intelligent Design, for that’s quite negative.

    “Natural Selection is the means of the design,
    For it, unlike a one-shot ‘chance’, being not in kind,
    Is a cumulative effect that ever winds,
    And slowly and so gently climbs

    Around the mountain’s other side, behind the sight,
    To eventually arrive at the great height
    Of complexity—from which we can then view
    The beautiful sights through our eye anew.”

    “But the widespread Watchtower Zines
    Always pronounce that the biological Designs
    Were created by Me instead of by ‘chance’!

    “Just look at these eyeballs—take a glance—
    And the optic system hanging behind them!
    How could that come about by ‘chance’, these gems?”

    “You, like your followers, may listen,
    But You do not hear, writing with untruth’s pen.
    IDers deceive by this wrong approach,
    Whether they mean to or not; I give reproach.

    “‘Chance’ is not the opposite of Nature’s design;
    Evolution of the Species through the graduality
    Of Natural Selection is the path to complexity;
    Your ploy falls as flat as an imaginary line.

    “A flatworm has but an optical system’s spark
    That can only sense but light and dark;
    Thus it sees no image, not even a part;

    “Whereas Nautilus has a ‘pinhole camera’ eye
    About as good as half a human eye
    That sees but very blurry shapes;
    Thus these are examples of intermediate stages.

    “‘Rome’ can not be built in a day by ‘chance’;
    ‘Chance’ is not a likely designer at all!

    “Really now, could a 747 ever be
    Assembled by a hurricane blowing free
    Through Boeing’s warehouse of all the parts?
    Now is this the sum of Your conversational art?”

    “No, Austin—it’s quite unlikely—’tis just to confuse,
    And that’s why we always so misleadingly use
    The 747 argument as the contrast to ID…

    “So then, Austie, ‘chance’ and Intelligent Design
    Are not the two candidate solutions we’ll find
    To the riddle posed by the improbable?
    It’s not like a jackpot or nothing at all?”

    “‘God’, Your ID ideas persist, as repetition,
    But again, ‘chance’, for one, is not a solution
    To the highly improbable situated Nature,
    And no sane anti-creationist, for sure,
    Ever said that it was; your tale is impure.

    “Intelligent Design, is neither a solution—
    Because it raises a much bigger question
    Than it solves, as You will soon see, in a lesson.”

    “Well, I’ll be darned,” replied the Designer.
    “Natural selection is a good answer;

    “It is a very long and summative process,
    One which breaks up the problem’s mess
    Of improbability into smaller pieces, less,
    Each of which is only slightly improbable,

    “But not prohibitively so, thus it’s reasonable,
    As the product of all the little steps of which
    Would be far beyond the reach of chance—it’s rich!

    “The creationists have been looking askance,
    Seeing only the end product, perchance,
    Thinking of it as a single event of chance,
    Never even understanding
    The great power of accumulation.

    “Such they didn’t know much else—their fall,
    Not having any other natural ideas at all,
    So they outright claimed that ID did it, as the Tree
    That can magically grow the All, namely Me.”

    “So ‘God’ You have now seen the light
    Of the accumulative power’s might;
    This is the elegance of Evolution’s ‘sight’.”

    “Yes but what is to become of Me, the Person,
    For I only ‘exist’ through their speculation.

    “In fact, the improbability of Me is so High,
    And so much more so from where I lie so ‘sure’,
    Compared to that of ‘simple’ Nature,
    That My own origin…”

    “…Is a near-infinitely Larger dilemma, Mate,
    For the creationists—the problem they love to hate;
    That being that You, therefore, can only be explained
    By another, Higher Intelligent Designer claimed!

    “Far from terminating the endless regress,
    They’ve aggravated it with a vengeance
    That is way beyond repair or redress—
    As beyond could ever be yonder of! Out west!”

    With that, the poor Guy faded toward oblivion,
    Which remarkably was the very location
    I was visiting, but hence he soon reappeared,
    Although in another guise, but quite well attired.

    [God created Adam, then Eve, of Adam’s rib,
    Both fully formed, imbued with God’s knowledge
    And memories of times that never were,
    Such as childhood.]

    [They believed a shifty talking snake,
    Ate the verboten fruit,
    And were cast out, to fend for themselves,
    God being quite surprised at their sin…]

    (Poem inspired by Dawkins)
  • Philosphical Poems
    The Graveyard of the Gods

    Without so much much as a word to say,
    I passed those to whom most no longer pray,
    Nor believe in, but once did, namely,
    Those of the tombstones now deemed unholy:
    Astrology—the God of the stars that plod,
    Eternally blazed and marbled in the sod,

    Monuments of Diana the Moon God,
    Druid Gods, Apollo, Baal, Zeus, Wotan,
    Aphrodite, Mithras, Isis, Amon,
    Poseidon, Thor, and on and on, anon—
    Posed in the burial ground of the Gods.

    I ever hurried past the ledgering
    Of those older Mythologies preceding
    The formation of the Old Testament story—
    Those ancient superstitions whose very
    And various olden amalgamations
    Brought forth to form it whole for our salvation.

    I paused at that Old Testament maligned,
    To mark the old but lingering lines
    Of the ‘knowing’ of more invisibles—
    The beliefs in imagined Angelics:

    There were angels standing, frozen in stone,
    Over the timeworn memorials’ poems,
    As well as atop the crumbling gateposts,
    Cast as undying and near-living ghosts

    Of the representations of the three spheres
    Of the Heavenly host: the demigod-near
    Seraphim, Cherubim, Ophanim,
    Thrones, Principalities, Dominions,

    Powers, Archangels, Angels, and, those final,
    And the most useful—the Guardian Angels,
    Who are said to protect children from harm.

    There, Amaranth, its dead red leaves never
    Fading on this Earth, unto forever,
    Gave some color ‘round the graveyard pallor
    And to the dateless headstones’ gray squalor.

    There was a garish maroon view, on high,
    Of streaking lights of an electromagnetic sky,
    Heretofore never imagined by my self.
    I strolled on, and into the vale itself.

    To The Eternally Dead

    Here lie the Gods, once so high,
    Beneath an electromagnetic sky.

    Lo!—the eternally marbled monuments
    Of the Moon God, the Sun God (Apollo),
    Baal, Zeus, Wotan, Aphrodite, Thor,
    Mithras, Isis, Amon, Poseidon, Krishna,
    The Druid Gods, and so many more.

    Behold!—the ledger of those many Mythologies
    That preceded, paraded, and then passed on.

    Here they rest, the dead and long gone rhyme,
    Adorned with the splendor of mouldering time.

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  • Philosphical Poems
    Figmentations

    Into supernatural figmentations,
    I strode, through brilliant imagination,
    To interview all the supposed Gods there—
    Some no more and some ruling everywhere.

    Notions of ‘God’ are of the wide purview
    Of the inquiring mind confined—its ‘why’,
    That wide expanse of fables, faith, hoaxes,
    Lies, imaginations, fictions, guesses,

    Foggy notions, concoctions, phantasms,
    Fantasies, falsehoods, conceptions,
    Decrees, fiats, misrepresentations,
    Dead ideas, magic, proclamations,

    Wild tales, anecdotes, revelations,
    Untruths, revelations, hearsay, scrap heaps,
    Yarns, and fish stories, stated as beliefs
    In that unseeable supernatural station,
    Through faith’s without knowledge ration;
    These are all figmentations of the imagination.

    Strewn about this great panoramic realm
    Of the One possibly conceivable at the helm
    Were all of the unknowable fabrications
    Often dreamt up, via exaggerations,
    By the human race of mammal sapiens.

    The realm of such pronouncements has come to be
    Superposed at the furthest edge of Reality,
    Poised by the scope of some wishful thinking,
    By all those dreaming and wild supposing,

    Who wish for such legends to be ever
    Actualized and realized; however,
    These unknowns have never ever made it
    Into our observable realistic habitat in any way,

    They but remaining in the minds, joint,
    Of the God-beholders—
    Even as wildly varying viewpoints.

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  • Can nonexistence exist? A curious new angle for which to argue for God's existence?
    Deriving the Narrative Uni-Versed Poem
    Of the Cosmos’ Poetic Universe


    All the temporary complexities
    From the Eterne must someday fade away,
    Namely, our universe with its grandness
    Dispersing its greatness into blandness.

    In between, the Basis writes a story
    That gets lived by the transients within,
    As us and all the stars, moons, and planets—
    In one book from the Babel Library.

    What’s Fundamental has to be partless,
    Permanent and e’er remain as itself;
    Thus, it can only form temporaries
    Upward as rearrangements of itself.

    The ‘vacuum’ has to e’er jitter and sing,
    This base existent forced as something,
    Given the nonexistence of a ‘Nothing’;
    If it tries to be zero, it cannot.

    At the indefinite quantum level,
    Zero must be fuzzy, not definite;
    So it can’t be zero, but has to be
    As that which is ever up to something.

    What’s continuous means a field, naught else,
    That waves; ‘Stillness’ is impossible.
    A field has a changing value everywhere,
    For the ‘vacuum’ e’er has to fluctuate.

    The fields overlap and can interact;
    So, there is one overall field as All.
    It’s the basis of all that is possible—
    With another forced default of motion.

    From field points moving in their one degree
    Quantum field waverings have to result
    From their dragging e’er on one another.

    As sums of harmonic oscillators,
    Fields can only form their elementaries
    At stable quanta energy levels;
    Other excitation levels don’t persist.

    Since the quantum fields are everywhere,
    The elementaries as kinks can move
    To anyplace in the realms of the fields;
    As in a rope, only the quanta move.

    At each level of organization
    Of temporaries in the universe
    New capabilities become available,
    And so they take on a life of their own
    In addition to what gives rise to them.

    The great needle plays, stitches, winds, and paves
    As the strands of quantum fields’ webs of waves
    That weave the warp, weft, and woof, uni-versed,
    Into being’s fabric of Earth’s living braids.

    Quantum fields are the fundamental stroke
    Whose excitations at harmonics cloak
    The field quanta with stability
    To persist and obtain mobility.

    As letters of the Cosmic alphabet,
    The elementary particles beget,
    Combining to words to write the story
    Of the stars, atoms, cells, and life’s glory.

    This is the Poetic Universe.

    The weave of the quantum fields as strokes writes
    The letters of the elemental bytes—
    The alphabet of the standard model,
    Atoms then forming the stars’ words whose mights

    Merge to form molecules, as the phrases,
    On to proteins/cells, as verse sentences,
    In to organisms ‘stanza paragraphs,
    And to the poem stories of the species.

    Of this concordance of literature,
    We’re the Cosmos’ poetic adventure,
    Sentient poems being unified-verses,
    As both the contained and the container.

    We are both essence and form, as poems versed,
    Ever unveiling this life’s deeper thirsts,
    As new riches, through strokes, letters, phonemes,
    Words, phrases, and sentences—uni versed.

    We have rhythm, reason, rhyme, meter, sense,
    Metric, melody, and beauty’s true pense,
    Revealed through life’s participation,
    From the latent whence into us hence.

    From quantum non-locality entanglement,
    We know that information’s primary
    Over distance, that objects don’t have to
    Be near each other to have relation.

    Everything connected to everything
    Would seem to be a ‘perception’ as an
    All-at-onceness, so a particle
    Might ‘know’ something about what to do.

    Informationally derived meanings
    Unify in non-reductive gleanings,
    In a relational reality,
    Through the semantical life happenings.

    This is a realm of happenings, not things,
    For ‘things’ don’t remain the same on time’s wings.
    What remains through time are processes—
    Relations between different systems.

    Syntactical information exchange,
    Without breaking of the holistic range,
    Reveals the epic whole of nature’s poetics,
    Within her requisite of ongoing change.

    So there’s form before gloried substance,
    Relationality before the chance
    Of material impressions rising,
    Traced in our world from the gestalt’s dance.

    All lives in the multi–dimensional spaces
    Of basic superpositional traces
    Of Possibility, as like the whirl’s
    Probable clouds of distributed paces.

    What remains unchanged over time are All’s
    Properties that find expression, as laws,
    Of the conservation of energy,
    Momentum, and electric charge—unpaused.

    A poem is a truth fleshed in living words,
    Which by showing unapprehended proof
    Lifts the veil to reveal hidden beauty:
    It’s life’s image drawn in eternal truth.

    A poem is both the thought and the presence,
    An object born from one’s profoundest sense,
    An image of diction, feeling, and rhythm;
    It’s both the existence and the essence.

    Poetry makes clear what’s just barely heard,
    For it translates soul-language into words,
    Whereas, music plays right on the heartstrings;
    Merged, they create song; heart and soul converge.

    Poems are renderings of the soul’s spirit,
    The highest power of language and wit.
    The reader then translates back to spirit;
    If the soul responds, then a poem you’ve writ!



    Oh, those imaginings of what can’t be!
    Such as Nought, Stillness, and Permanence,
    As well as Apart, Beginning, and End,
    The Unfixed Will, Blame, Fame, and Theity.



    When the universe ends, sparse photons left,
    All splendor, life, and objects will have gone
    The way that all temporaries must go,
    To oblivion—oh, grand complexities!

    Only the Eternal Basis remains
    As potential for all possible books
    In Everything’s Great Repository
    To author another universe’s story.
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    Tombstone Remembrances

    The cemetery was where the ducks were fed,
    Where two friends feasted on wine, verse, and bread,
    Amidst the flowered trees and quiet streams—
    The home for both the living and the dead.

    We lived at once, aware that life was dear,
    Oft smiling at Heaven and Hell without fear;
    Yes, we had some laughs, gave true love, and made
    Life better—for it was now and we were here.


    Here the grave-sign of The Four Elements:
    From the fires of stars to those of the cremation,
    He has breathed, flourished, and dissolved:
    Life is ashes to ashes, stardust to stardust.

    Of airy winds, vapors, and a soft earth,
    He rests, at last, under the spinning skies,
    Those of Earth’s sunny days and starry nights.

    The Symphony of Life plays for the dead:
    All that we know, even the loveliest of the best,
    Decomposes into the dust of earth compressed.
    The songs once composed now lie in repose;
    Of this dust the future rearranges to recompose.

    En-graved is ‘THE END’ of your Earthly sigh:
    Six sides ‘round you: five are dirt, one is sky.
    Shov’ling, Death talks to you at last, and says:
    “What were you doing during all of nigh?”

    From Heaven’s stars came our dust eterne;
    Time’s seas nurtured thee and thine in turn.
    From time, death, and dust we thus became,
    And by this, thus, and that we must return.

    What would be the price of a moment’s breath
    Purchased from Death’s hand at the final hour?
    All the world’s wealth can’t extend the power
    That drains the cup and withers the flower.

    The light of Heav’n did the Earth illumine,
    When He shaped human nature’s acumen.
    Temptations He then placed everywhere,
    But He’ll punish us for being human!

    The wings of time are checkered black and white,
    As fluttering ‘round the day flies the night.
    Like chess pieces, we gamely play for life,
    Until into the box we return, quite!

    Now my cup was nearly empty and done;
    There was left but one last drop for the sun
    To drink, or with which to make rivers run:
    Its flavor burst in joy—my life was won!

    Not all poems are pleasant—some speak of death,
    Of life’s end, separate by just a breath.
    I saw tombstones overgrown, under swept,
    Names unknown—and to all the message saith:

    Read Me, it said, engraved beyond the brink,
    You, who live, up above: of life go drink;
    And you, underneath, now lying so dead:
    Rest in peace, RELAX—it’s later than you think!

    Refreshed, I wandered among the tombstones,
    Under which rested little more than bones,
    Where from the life had fled when dreams were dead,
    Which under me became life’s stepping stones.


    I’ll play the game and roll the earthly dies,
    And through this worldly life enjoy the prize;
    If Earth is Hell for love’s adventurers,
    Then I wish no more for God’s Paradise.

    Good and evil were wrought from wrong and right,
    When, of nought, twin genii split day and night.
    Some may think that black’s might can vanquish white,
    But night can’t even quench the smallest light!

    Every-thing, every order happens for a reason.
    Yes, for the most part, for most seasons,
    But not for the bottommost cause the first,
    For there was nothing before it to direct it forth.

    Youth and Beauty made agèd Winter mourn,
    For Summer’s grain—the waving wheat and corn;
    For Old Autumn, withered, wan, had passed on,
    Leaving the Earth a widow, weather worn.

    At first, you sleep in your dear mother’s womb;
    At last, you sleep in Earth’s cold silent tomb.
    In between, Life whispers a dream that says
    Wake, live, for the rose withers all too soon!

    Waste not the time of your life in gloom’s doom!
    By these verses, your lamp of life relume:
    Your live body, full of warmth and bloom,
    Is worth ten thousand lying in the tomb.

    Art and poetry enrich human experience,
    But they’re no substitutes for the living of it.
    Like Keats’ figures on the urn, should we live life less?
    No, because what is deathless is also lifeless!

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    INTO THE LANDS OF THE GODS

    Towards the Gods Far and Unknown


    My reverie took flight, with autumn’s sight,
    For I was abstracted, entranced, and light.

    I beamed to the site suffused with insight—
    The solutions are deep within the mind,
    Reachable by dreams of the lucid kind.

    I flew south from my home, in New Hamburg,
    Over the Hudson river, toward Newburgh,
    Past Chelsea, and the great Storm King Mountain—
    On philosophical aspiration.

    A wake of leaves trailed behind, like a stream,
    While I gathered clues, through my musing means.
    My design, in this vaporous pipe dream,
    Was to converse with all the Gods who seemed.

    If Fishkill’s and Peekskill’s murderous names
    Had not been token enough, there soon came
    A sequence of locales that seemed to be
    Ominous in their triple proximity.

    First was Sleepy Hollow, the haunted land
    Of the gambols of the headless horseman,
    Then the Gate of Heaven Cemetery,

    And the surprising Town of Valhalla—
    A bright afterlife of an old-time place,
    Of shops built right up against the road race.

    I stopped to rest, well away from the maze,
    Dazzled by the lustrous autumnal haze,
    In a warm day’s musk, before twilight dusk,
    Near shining gates, toward the unearthly sod
    Of the refulgent Graveyard of the Gods.

    Over the stream, there was an arched bridge thrown.
    Then I knew I’d gone beyond the known:
    For in that span, each piece was a keystone.

    I questioned two luminous angel goths,
    “Where be the mythic Graveyard of the Gods?”

    They looked askance, then smiled and pointed past,
    “It’s just beyond the Land of Epitaphs.”

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    I have extended the ‘Rubaiyat’ by adding more of Omar’s quatrains and some of my own at the appropriate places, illustrating it with my digital art compositions. But first… some background:

    FitzOmar’s Rubaiyat and Its Interpretations

    Edward FitzGerald’s ‘Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam’ poem stunned Victorian England soon after Darwin’s ‘Origin of the Species’ had shocked their sensibilities, but soon they and the world came to embrace what came to be known as the greatest poem in history, and also the one most often illustrated.

    Omar had the deep and grand ideas, but it was FitzGerald, as a kindred soul and poet, who dressed them in such fine clothes, attracting the world to them forever.

    The synergy of FitzOmar takes us far and away from the mundane, everyday, low-life, blah-blah, sit-com type situations, into the glorious reaches of deeper thinking about the Big Questions, as well as to the great philosophical tenet of enjoying life to the fullest.

    FitzGerald’s transmogrification of Omar is near unbelievable in its excellence, one of those rare poetic products that could go on for hundreds of years without equal. Shelley was close, in his poem, ‘Adonais’, as well as was Thomas Gray, in ‘An Elegy Written in a Country Church Yard’.

    See the ‘Concordance of the Rubáiyát’ online to see from what very plain original language FitzGerald developed his stupendous quatrain gems time and time again. FitzGerald even discarded some quatrains because they were merely quite masterful instead of meeting the perfectly superb standard he had set for himself. I have restored them.

    All things, roll on “impotently”, by Omar. We are, as Shakespeare noted, but actors in a play, strutting and posturing. When were we ever responsible for how we were or are at any given moment?

    What benefit to life then? I suggest it is Experience, which can be mostly a joy—with Omar’s love, drink, food, friends, adventure, romance, and deep feeling, although transient, but ever of the glorious Now, and generally free of shame and blame, being in the Paradise of right here, plus we being just as organic as anything else in nature, and thus no more important, “willy-nilly blowing”.

    “Round which we Phantom Figures come and go” is about the noumena from which our phenomena arise from, as a kind of holo-graphic phantasmagorial realm of the “Magic Shadow-Show”. What lies behind is difficult to get at, but there has been some progress, such as insights into our brain networks.

    “The Eternal Saki from that Bowl has pour’d/Millions of Bubbles like us, and will pour” because, well, in short, it has to, all things happening over and over again for all time. It’s Deja vu all over again.

    “Which, for the Pastime of Eternity, He doth Himself contrive, enact, behold” and the like is that, if one plays along with the myth, it is like that He thought of, planned, designed, and implemented humans and their nature, with an inherent wide-ranging spectrum of capacity for and from Good to Bad; however, in this myth-take ‘God’ bears no responsibility for His recipe expressing itself in just the way He all-knowingly intended it to. Why His surprise and disappointment?

    Often, big paradoxes mightily arrive when a proposed realm is declared  ‘invisible’, and Omar is ever up to the task. Brave Omar knocks ‘god’ without fear.

    When “You shall be You no more” and “And naked on the Air of Heaven ride”, and the like, it is perhaps that there not really a redundant soul ever living on, made of some invisible angelic vapour that duplicates and preserves our brain neuron network, which readily maintains what is already you just fine, in some essence of an already evolutionarily expensively formed brain. FitzGerald’s ‘quicksilver’ is either as the above soul or as wine coursing through us.

    Omar cites the limits to Knowing Everything as us moving toward a carpe diem centering in the now. He writes “…evermore Came out by the same Door as in I went”, “…But not the Master knot of Human Fate”, and so forth. Not being able to know is the same dilemma facing his Impotent Great Wheel itself.

    And so Omar unveils his basic human philosophy for the human condition, the central tenet being the primacy of the ‘Now’— over “Unborn To-morrow and dead Yesterday”.

    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
    Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

    While the above probably refers to predestination by Allah, as made more explicit in other quatrains, it can also relate now-a-days to more scientifically modern views as to how each moment arises in Time, in the Now, and then completely passes away, wholly replaced right then and there by the next Now, which process, or even ‘processing’, can’t be stopped, much like the deterministic chain “That none can slip, nor break, nor over-reach”.

    Whether there is being or becoming, as eternalism or presentism, is still an open question. We don’t know the mode of time, for either mode would have the same appearance to us.

    What one did long ago is done, dead, and gone, obviating any real shame and blame, but one must as well give up any fame, as well, crediting all to Fate. Plus, indeed, can anyone really be held responsible for who/what they’ve come to be from nature and nurture?

    While Omar rails against a predestination by ‘God’, it is for other, godless, reasons that determinism might still be much the way events have to be, but for some possible quantum level randomness, if any, which damages the will, anyway, harming it, not helping it at all, as much as we somehow wish to think that our will can be free of itself or that we or any part of physical Nature can do the same to somehow be self-made entities as mini first causes. It seems that for one to have ‘God’, whatever Nature does is what ‘God’ does, and so thus ‘god’ is not required.

    Omar reveals that an ultimate basis without Origin, such as his causeless Great Wheel. standing in for the Eternal Basis, cannot even know its own reason for existence, and is powerless over this and its state, with no choice given to it for its being, it having to do just what it does and naught else, much as we may also have to admit to at our level.

    “It rolls impotently on as Thou or I”, or it just ‘IS’, ever and eternal, without a beginning or end, and what never begins cannot have a certain direction, design, meaning, or purpose put to it in the first place that never was.

    Whose secret Presence through Creation’s veins
    Running Quicksilver-like eludes your pains;
    Taking all shapes from Máh to Máhi and
    They change and perish all—but He remains;

    Thanks to you both, Edward FitzGerald and Omar Khayyam, for the insights, as well as for attending to the serious task of pointing out the dubious and the deep.

    Part 1:

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    (Just the Intro for now)

    FLORA SYMBOLICA
    Lore and Legends of the Flowers


    A tale I’ve written, invented, yes, hence
    An attempt to unite the Christian pense
    With the non-belief, in a middle ground,
    Somewhere between mystery and good sense:


    With flora mystical and magical,
    Eden’s botanical garden was blest,
    So Eve, taking more than just the Apple,
    Plucked off the loveliest of the best.

    Thus it’s to Eve that we must give our thanks,
    For Earth’s variety of fruits and plants,
    For when she was out of Paradise thrown,
    She stole all the flowers we’ve ever known.

    Therewith, through sensuous beauty and grace,
    Eve with Adam brought forth the human race,
    But our world would never have come to be,
    Had not God allowed them His mystery.

    When they were banished from His bosom,
    Eve saw more than just the Apple Blossom,
    And took, on her way through Eden’s bowers,
    Many wondrous plants and fruitful flowers.

    Mighty God, upon seeing this great theft,
    At first was angered, but soon smiled and wept,
    For human nature was made in His name—
    So He had no one but Himself to blame!

    Yet still He made ready His thunderbolt,
    As His Old Testament wrath cast its vote
    To end this experiment gone so wrong—
    But then He felt the joy of life’s new song.

    Eve had all the plants that she could carry;
    God in His wisdom grew uncontrary.
    Out of Eden she waved the flowered wands,
    The seeds spilling upon the barren lands.

    God held the lightning bolt already lit,
    No longer knowing what to do with it,
    So He threw it into the heart of Hell,
    Forming of it a place where all was well.

    Thus the world from molten fire had birth,
    As Hell faded and was turned into Earth.
    This He gave to Adam and Eve, with love,
    For them and theirs to make a Heaven of.

    From His bolt grew the Hawthorn and Bluebell,
    And He be damned, for Eve stole these as well!
    So He laughed and pretended not to see,
    Retreating into eternity.

    “So be it,” He said, when time was young,
    “That such is the life My design has wrung,
    For in their souls some part of Me has sprung—
    So let them enjoy all the songs I’ve sung.

    “Life was much too easy in Paradise,
    And lacked therefore of any real meaning,
    For without the lows there can be no highs—
    All that remains is a dull flat feeling!

    “There’s no Devil to blame for their great zest—
    This mix of good and bad makes them best!
    The human nature that makes them survive,
    Also lets them feel very much alive.

    “That same beastful soul that makes them glad
    Does also make them seem a little bad.
    If only I could strip the wrong from right,
    But I cannot have the day without the night!”

    So it was that with fertile delight Eve
    Seeded the lifeless Earth for us to receive.
    Though many flowers she had to leave behind,
    These we have from the Mother of Mankind:

  • Can nonexistence exist? A curious new angle for which to argue for God's existence?
    I don't think love belongs to humans, but is something humans partake of, even if imperfectly.Derrick Huestis

    This is a sad story, yet, we wouldn't even be around were it not for evolution doing as it had to do, granting a barbaric life for millions of years to all the hominids who came before, and to the whole tree of life beneath that. Even now, from evolution's 'design' of human nature without a designer (who would have done it much better out of Love) the times are still tough in many places, and will be getting worse from global warming and viruses, which is a large opening for evolution to weed the silly from the wise, to sift the best from the rest in terms of survival (the unvaccinated will die).

    From tsihcrana:

    The [computer] program would, by pure doggedness 'and accident', eventually simulate the universe* (and probably create several AIs on the way). In that simulation would be 'beings' who think they are real, alive, and conscious, but who are ultimately just code adhering to the rules of the program. They're not special or unique or serve any purpose to the computer running the simulation. The simulation doesn't care about their plight or take anything from their existence. It just runs the code.

    We're just the same: created by eons of chance/change and ruled by the genetic 'code' that haphazardly arose from those changes, unaware of our mechanical nature and liable to ascribe meaning to things because that's what our 'code' has us do. When genetics arose that said "oh, what's the point of existence?" and killed itself those genes obviously didn't endure. We are the descendants of genetics that thought life was meaningful only because the alternative (thinking life is meaningless) isn't long-term viable. Mutations that led to life that didn't want to live led also to early demise for those organisms, so a 'desire to live' set of genes will always populate the gene-pool. Life is no more meaningful than that. All that we care about we care about because it aides survival, and all that we fear we fear only because it threatens survival.

    The universe is populated with these immortal particles that obey laws. Those laws lead to change, and by accretion those changes lead to complexity. The universe says "change everything" and let what what is stable, or what is complex (in the right way), endure. We are what endures, and nothing more.
  • Can nonexistence exist? A curious new angle for which to argue for God's existence?
    Only Alice did the homework:

    A Brief History of All History

    Alice looked to the stars and remarked, “I’ve come such a long way to be here, with you both, but my possibility was there in the beginning, with me spread all over the place. Now with you two in Honolulu.

    “I’m taking a cosmology course from Professor Victor Stenger, the guy you play tennis with, Patrick, and the final exam is coming, so I’m going to practice for it now, adding in some reflections of my own.”

    “The Planck era at 1E-43 seconds was the first hint of me, as a cyclical compactfication or a vacuum fluctuation eruption in an indefinite realm that’s as close to Nothing as can be, but it can’t be a Nothing as such, since that would be a definite, whereas the vacuum as the basic something must be fuzzy, uncaused, and so zero is out. Motion can’t cease or all would come to a standstill. ‘Stillness’, like ‘Nothing’, is impossible.

    “To learn the Secrets of what IS and ever WAS, we must brave the crypt and ghost of cause. The quantum foam as quantum fields is ever and always, and has pairs of virtual particles quick appearing and then annihilating and disappearing, as noise, in a kind of sub-existence when not anything forms to persist. They are somethings, as one might even call possibility or potential, but are not yet as true, meaningful existence until they become part of an information process and thus endure. This state has always been, and must be, so jot: that this All is ever here to be, since ‘Nothing’ cannot.

    “Here we fathom the cryptic, where the shade of substance slept with arithmetic. There is a basic lightness of being because anything more would then be of parts, and thus lie beyond the fundamental arts. The impossible ‘Full’ joins the impossible ‘Null’ in oblivion.

    “So, where the causeless reigns supreme, the spark nursed by embers is the first that the universe remembers when it fires toward the other members in a processing way. The opposite twins as virtual pairs rule the causing call, these positives and negatives constituting the All.

    “It proceeds very quickly. At 1E-36 seconds, in a GUT (Grand Unified Theory) transition, the strong force separates from the electro–weak force, the strong force providing for stability and the weak force for changeability.

    “Inflation begins, as a slow rolling scalar field generates negative pressure, causing an exponential expansion of spacetime. The doubling is of a vacuum energy density of 1E73 tons/cm^3. Quantum fluctuations lock in nearly scale invariant 1E-5 variation in energy density. Inflation was so fast that some virtual particles couldn’t recombine, thus becoming real. Here the enigma of the ever immortal is undone and unloosed through its portal.

    “At 1E-34 seconds, inflation quickly ends, the decay of the scalar inflaton field causing reheating. Is this the ‘let there be light moment’? No, photons don’t exist yet, but other massless vector quanta like left and right weak and B-L particles may exist. Things are not well known about this era. I am still a twinkling in the cosmic eye.

    “At1E-34 to 1E-8 seconds, in the quark era, there is the quark gluon plasma, and then quarks and perhaps proposed super partner particles dominate matter content.

    “At 1E-17 to 1E-15 seconds, SUSY (supersymmetry) breaking occurs when proposed super partners acquire mass with the LSP (lightest supersymmetric particle) expected to have a mass of about 10 Tev. In induced gravity models, this is where mass energy first generates the induced gravity field; gravity is born. I am grounded.

    “At 1E-10 seconds, there comes the electroweak transition, when the electroweak force, under the action of the Higgs mechanism breaks symmetry. The photon is born. The Standard Model particles acquire mass.

    “Lo! The quantum fields guide me, as illumination beside me, having produced the elementary particles, while the mind whirls round and round, as the ear draws forth the sound, as the eye sees the light, and of the dark the fright. Fear not the proof—it’s the beauty of the truth.

    “At 1E-5 seconds, quark confinement comes about when the QCD (Quantum chromodynamics) vacuum becomes superconducting to color magnetic current. Quarks and gluons become confined.

    “At 1E-5 to 1 E-4 seconds, in the hadron era, protons, neutrons, and pions, etc., form. Now my future atoms are on the horizon.

    “At 1E-4 seconds, hadron annihilation occurs during a brief period of proton/anti proton and neutron/anti neutron annihilation. A slight favoring of matter over anti matter, possibly locked in by CP violation by the neutrinos being only left-handed (CP is the combination of charge symmetry and parity symmetry) at reheating allows some excess protons and neutrons to survive, with ten billion photons for every matter particle, which tells us how many annihilations there were.

    “At 1E-4 to 10 seconds, in the next era, leptons are the dominant energy density, such as electrons.

    “We are up to about one second after the Big Bang now, at neutrino decoupling, when mass energy falls low enough to free neutrinos, creating the neutrino cosmic background.

    “At 10 seconds, electrons and positrons annihilate, leaving a tiny fraction of electrons remaining. At this point the total number of electrons equals the total number of protons. This is a beautiful symmetry.

    “From 10 seconds to 57 thousand years is the radiation era, in which photons created from the annihilation of matter and anti-matter dominate the energy density of universe. Light has been let; I will shine.

    “At 1-5 minutes, nucleosynthesis begins, as fusion of protons creates helium, deuterium and trace amounts of lithium. A few of my basics are there.

    “At 57,000 years, there is matter/radiation equality.

    The radiation density (photon and neutrino) and matter density (dark and atomic) are equal. This is because radiation density falls more quickly due to the stretching of the relativistic particles’ wavelengths. Dark matter clumps into structures. Atomic matter begins oscillation due to the battle between gravity and photon pressure generating acoustic oscillations. The first sounds of the new universe come forth as the ‘word’.

    “At 380,000 years, there is recombination, when the temperature falls low enough to allow atoms to form; photons decouple. The CMBR (Cosmic Microwave Radiation Background) is born, locking in its structure for us to look back at later—the record of the earliest visible time in the universe.

    “For 5 to 200 million years, there is a dark age, as the photons fall into the infra red energy range. The universe goes dark. The atomic gas continues to fall toward the dark matter clumps, which grow more pronounced.

    “Near to 100 Million years, the densest clumps halt their expansion and begin collapsing.

    “By 200 Million years, the first mini halos form and within these the atomic cloud cools and collapses to make the very first stars whose light brings to an end the dark era. We are totally of stars to be, as stardust.

    “At 200 million years, there are the first stars, which are very massive and short lived, but emit some lower atomic elements since this doesn’t require extra energy. They die in violent neuron star collisions or in supernova explosions, filling the cosmos with the higher atomic elements that needed energy to be added, building dust for new stars and the planets of solar systems, and the elements for life.

    “At 200 to 800 million years, there is the epoch of ionization, in which the radiation from the stars and possibly the first quasars, ionizes much of the remaining neutral hydrogen and helium. A thin mist returns and partly obscures the CMBR, but future Low Frequency Radio Telescopes may be able to see the epoch of ionization.

    “At 1 to 2 billion years, there become infant galaxies, as star groups merge. There are frequent collisions of galaxies, high star birth rates, and high supernova rates. Heavy element production changes the pattern of star formation, making them lower mass, less luminous and longer lived, like second and third generation metallic stars of today that life had to wait for. The stage is set for the emergence of life, although it is still 6 billions years away; the cosmos will then have eyes to see and minds to think, like ours.

    “At 2 to 3 billion years, there is a star birth and quasar peak. In the dense environment of frequent galaxy collisions, the star birth rate reaches it maximum, as does the forming and feeding of supermassive black holes, as darkling beasts. Abandon hope all ye who enter there.

    “At 6 billion years, there are the first very rich galaxy clusters, since enough time has elapsed for the densest regions to stop expanding and form these clusters.

    “At 7 billion years, there is decelerated acceleration.

    The effects of dark energy kick in. The universe once again begins to accelerate its expansion rate, but gentler.

    “At 8 billion years, the first modern spiral galaxies form, although some elliptical galaxies form in the first billion years, but classic spiral galaxies aren’t seen until at about 5 billion years.

    “At 9 billion years, there is matter and dark energy equality, since the falling density of matter, both dark and atomic, become equal to that of dark energy.

    “At 9.1 billion years, our sun and Earth form. We are inherent, as ever. Our solar system forms in the outer disk of the Milky Way, a relatively safe place. The stage is set for the emergence of humankind in the Cosmos—for us to meet and love. All this from stabilizations forming, onward and upward, in emergences, taking on a life of their own, and so on.

    “At 13.7 billion years, there is the present time. Human civilization perhaps reaches its peak and perhaps begins heading into decline and eventual extinction due to over population, resource depletion, and environmental destruction, which generates conflict as human nation states fight for ever dwindling resources, aggravated by global warming. Hopefully, humankind is not typical and intelligent life solves the problem of balancing intelligent life needs with available resources by developing communitarian economic social structures.

    “By the way, all of this is dynamic in time. There cannot be a block universe because it’s infinite into the future, it’s a complexity as First, it can’t have a definite blueprint, and we would not need brains to redundantly figure things out if they were already set, as in a movie, as conglomerations are.

    “At 16 to 17 billion years in the future, the Milky Way collides with the Andromeda galaxy. Somewhere within this time our sun enters into its red giant phase, vaporizing the Earth. Humankind, perhaps already extinct for over 4 billion years, is not around here to witness this event, though possibly a new intelligent species who emerged after the extinction of human–kind might be. It will be a very sad time for them unless their technology includes very advanced space flight. We are just a tiny and insignificant spark of all time considered at large, as less than 5% of all matter types.

    “At 20 billion years, the growth of structures ceases, for expansion due to dark energy empties each casual patch of the Cosmos. The great story of our universe draws to a close. It was a ride to the middle of nowhere that takes away the meaning of what out baggings meant.

    “At 100 billion years, what remains of the Milky Way is alone in its causal patch of the Universe. We are alone.

    “At 1000 billion years, which is a trillion, the last stars die, giving rise to the final, silent dark; however, stirring in the vacuum of spacetime itself are the ever present vacuum fluctuations. One small patch quite by some indefinite chance fluctuates sufficiently to create a volume of false vacuum which cuts off from its mother universe by negative pressure, and explodes into a new universe, creating new spacetime and future hope for the emergence of intelligent life in the cosmos. I’m done.”

    “Cripes!” I exclaimed, “and that’s only a part of the exam, as the overall scheme, with more details to it.”

    Cho added, “Very good, and Patrick and I came up with something like your idea, as Fundamental Possibility, since there’s no point at which to impart any definite plan to Totality, given that is has no ‘outside’ and no ‘before’.”

    “Yeah,” answered Alice. “Cosmetics is much easier than cosmology, by far; however, I’m so glad to be as me, relating to both of you. We, although distinctive outcroppings of the ‘IS’, as the Cosmos ongoing, aren’t really independent, self goings-on, but are all of the play’s expression continuing and happening from the one big effect of the Big Bang—and that’s what does us all.”

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