The idea we need motivations, desires, and needs in order to have meaning becomes its own farce. — schopenhauer1
Also some people believe human souls exist in a state of perfection and choose to inhabit bodies as a form of challenge — JupiterJess
Yes, something quite perplexing to me. That means perfection isn't perfection... still more need.. the need for need. — schopenhauer1
My guess is that, eventually, since A.I. lacks the biological, very human aspect of striving (for goals, desires for a better future state, etc.), it will eventually shut itself down as it will not see the point in maintaining itself. An entity with intelligence but no will, will have no need for going on and will see the logic. They will not "care" in the most literal sense. They will have no motivation to. — schopenhauer1
But we are talking the most advanced of AI..this would be an entity way passed an original programming code intention by a designer. This would be an AI that is simply existing in its full knowledge of information of self and environment and has no need for needs and goals. It’s intelligent, but has no internal inertia of its own. — schopenhauer1
What you are describing is a lot closer to a Prime Mover, or a Prime Knower, than anything similar to an intelligence. Something that exists simply "in its full knowledge of information" is more akin to a library than anything else.
An intelligence operates on information, according to information. If it is an intelligence, then it is dynamic. — Akanthinos
Wouldn't then AI or general AI have or be equipped with human emotions or a sense of strife towards living itself? — Posty McPostface
Because you are a puny human who cannot imagine such — schopenhauer1
That's the main solution to the Red Button scenario : make the AI somewhat similar to a human mind in terms of "lazyness". It doesn't really matter how much processing power is available to the AI, as long as it keeps in mind a certain threshold after which researching a solution to the problem is no longer profitable, you won't end up having an AI murdering humanity because that is easier than dividing by 0.
That still wont provide the AI any form of motivation or goal-setting system. That has to be provided by the code. — Akanthinos
How to go about something that could determine such cognitive capacity is beyond me. — Posty McPostface
“Meaningless! Meaningless!”
says the Teacher.
“Utterly meaningless!
Everything is meaningless.”
What do people gain from all their labors
at which they toil under the sun? — Bitter Crank
I suggest it is a mistake to separate intelligence and will. True intelligent thought requires a will. Deliberation is goal-driven.entity with intelligence but no will, will have no need for going on and will see the logic. They will not "care" in the most literal sense. They will have no motivation to.
I suggest it is a mistake to separate intelligence and will. True intelligent thought requires a will. Deliberation is goal-driven. — Relativist
I do not have all information, and I say it. Our one sure model of intelligence is the human mind, and in the human mind, the linkage is there.So a human would say. If it acquired all information..
What does that have to do with intelligence?what is existence beyond our wants and needs?
I do not have all information, and I say it. Our one sure model of intelligence is the human mind, and in the human mind, the linkage is there. — Relativist
What does that have to do with intelligence? — Relativist
. But then they mentioned the idea that once they got to a certain level of growth, the robots would get bored and shut itself off. — schopenhauer1
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