Do you agree that there might be societies which need the occasional bloody governmental intervention? If not, what makes to say so? — Mongrel
is necessity or possibility accounted for by what, when where, which, who, how, and why? — Bitter Crank
If someone choses to act well (in a moral sense) for no reason at all, then what would be the measure of her action according to which it isn't seen to be deviating from goodness into some gratuitous cruel or unjust behavior? If you chose to act well -- or to be good -- "on your own terms", as you say, then your own understanding of goodness, as distinguished from evil, provides your reason for acting. — Pierre-Normand
Actually, Buddhists have a name for that view. It's called 'total bullshit'. It's a very common affliction amongst decadent Westerners. You're just totally, like, you know, wallowing in your own ego. — Wayfarer
I don't think you would.
Buddhists certainly recognize freedom of choice but they also undertake to observe the dharma. — Wayfarer
It's not an attitude, it is a feature of reality. — tom
But śūnyatā doesn't actually mean 'nothing', it is a more subtle idea than that. — Wayfarer
It is possible that there are an infinite number of realities with an infinite number of constraints on how many/what kind of simulations they run, and thus, you can't argue that it is more likely that there are more simulations than realities. — Javants
Animals don't have qualia, simulate them as much as you like — tom
So you think a civilization advanced enough to perform a vast number of computer simulations containing us, our universe, and our qualia, will perform animal testing and play crappy C21 computer games? — tom
There can't be scientific progress in the absence of certain values. In order to survive and become advanced, a civilization would require an advanced morality, culture, and probably aesthetics.
Would such people be willing to bring the suffering of humanity back into existence once? — tom
An advanced civilization would not simulate this reality because it would be utterly immoral to do so. — tom
do anything they want — Marchesk
But if we're inside a simulation, on what basis do we assign such a probability? — Marchesk
Finally, it seems to rest on the assumption that the laws of physics are computable. — Marchesk
No, evolution does not 'pit one's genetic composition against the environment' because individuals and 'people' are not the subjects of evolution. Populations of species, or more specifically, developmental systems are. 'Particular genetic defects' are only relevant to evolution once they begin to manifest at the level of speciation, otherwise they are totally evolutionarily irrelevant — StreetlightX
Yes, because "evolutionary rejects" doesn't seem to mean anything. Evolution is simply "change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations". How does it make sense to pair the term "evolutionary" with the term "reject" ("inadequate, unacceptable, or faulty")?
At best you could perhaps use the term "evolutionary reject" to refer to any organism which doesn't contribute towards the evolutionary process, which would just be any organism that doesn't reproduce, but even that's a stretch. — Michael
No, that would be closer to natural selection, which is the commonly accepted means by which evolution occurs. — Michael
Would you say the same about animals building nests or sleeping in caves to avoid freezing to death?
And I don't understand how you can equate being susceptible to disease with having defective genes. — Michael
This seems like saying that an airplane interferes with the natural process of gravity. — Michael
There are no such things as 'evolutionary rejects' - or rather, the only 'evolutionary rejects' are dead species. If you're alive, you're winning. That's the game. — StreetlightX
The whole idea of 'evolutionary rejects' or that medicine and social innovations have somehow 'interfered' with some supposedly more 'natural' course of evolution is junk science and needs to be discarded at once. — StreetlightX
Especially: is it actually a good thing that people can choose to do bad things? — Cuthbert
Those emotions you mention are dispositions of physical bodies and physically felt; so I don't know what you mean by saying they are non-physical. — John
No causation as it generally understood consists in energetic physical interactions that are indifferent to any qualities we might impute to actions. — John
Karma is not causation as it is ordinarily understood. — John
The problem is that it is very commonly observed that bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. — John
I just don't see how that God can be only good, when there is evil and suffering in existence. A God who was both good and evil makes a lot more sense. Or a god indifferent to morality. An amoral being. A being for whom empathy and justice is a foreign concept. My very limited understanding of Hinduism is that God is beyond good and evil.
But a perfectly good God with omni-powers is in direct contradiction with existence. — Marchesk
Do they need one another, are they intertwined that deeply? — River