• Baden
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    INTERNAL MONOLOGUE: I know nothing about this and don't care to look it up. But imagine asking a Hanover to educate one. The shame...
  • praxis
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    Your argument is not coherent. First you say that the marketers were trying to gain market share (good for shareholders), and then later say that they were moralizing on an issue (bad for shareholders).

    An innocent mistake is not immoral.
  • Hanover
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    What did they opine on? I thought a trans celeb just promoted their beer?Baden

    They presented the opinion that transsexualism was an acceptable way of life and that transsexuals should be afforded the same respect in society as others.

    I'm not suggesting that opinion isn't laudable, but I am suggesting that it is an opinion that need not have been expressed, and it is not one that promotes the well being of the brand.

    To take a counter example, if the Proud Boys had been used to promote the beer, that elevation of a racist organization for the sale of beer would be properly interpreted as an expression of opinion by Bud Lite that racism is acceptable.

    I don't suggest the opposite is acceptable either, which is to suggest that an organization should be openly immoral by condemning transsexuals or openly promoting racism to sell their product. They should stick to selling their product and staying away from such conflicts. This is why Bud Lite finds itself in an impossible situation. They cannot seperate themselves from transsexuals without being transphobic, but they are forced now to stay the course of a bad decision.
  • Hanover
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    An innocent mistake is not immoral.praxis

    If they were unable to get outside their own echo chamber and were so insulated from the greater world at large that they truly did not know that their primary customer base held such opposing views, then that would reduce their immorality. How much that was so and how much was someone promoting an agenda, I don't know. You'd think some market research study should have preceeded the rollout of the marketing plan.

    I do think though that they should have exercised extreme prudence given the stakes. But I do think it's a fair defense presented by you that if this was truly the result of extreme incompetence that was unmotivated by other objectives, then you don't have an ethical problem, just a competency one, which still remains problematic to me given my general objections to using one's spotlight to present opinions no one ever asked for.
  • Hanover
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    I'd also say the Bud Lite isn't really beer.
  • BC
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    I agree that Bud Lite isn't really beer, but why is it a leading brand?

    What's wrong with ordinary Budweiser or Miller or... Blatz? (Blatz is real beer, it just doesn't taste very good, regular or otherwise.) I prefer Stella Artois; the Stella Artois brewer is one of the oldest corporations on earth -- 657 years. It's been perfect beer for at least the last 10 years.

    Back in the 1970s, Coors ran into flack with the gay community who believed the company was anti-gay. Labor said Coors was anti-union, too. Probably both were true. A boycott was organized -- easy to support in most of the country because Coors (brewed in Denver) wasn't sold everywhere at that time. Eventually Coors performed the necessary symbolic full face grovel and resolved the gay issue, Not sure whether they became more union friendly.

    Olympia was another brand that went national in the 1970s. It lacked body. Too watery. Bland.
  • Baden
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    INTERNAL MONOLOGUE: See, you should have known better. You idiot. You bloody idiot.
  • frank
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    The struggle continued, fueled by the unyielding spirit of a boy named Melvin, whose solitary act of resistance transcended the boundaries of time and place.praxis

    I think this needs to be in Wikipedia. After all, life is precious.
  • Baden
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    Nicely done. :cool: :up:
  • Moliere
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    Felt like I ought see the ad:
  • Moliere
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    Doesn't really seem worthy of ethical consideration. Someone different got to show themselves in a positive light, and some people hate that. But my guess is Anheuser Busch will be able to weather the negativity.
  • Moliere
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    Also, I might add, I drink Hamm's. So this is some high-class talkin' ;)
  • wonderer1
    114
    I'd also say the Bud Lite isn't really beer.


    Agreed.

    Forget the ethics. It's aesthetically wrong to drink Bud Light.
  • Hanover
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    That ad plays into the sexist stereotype that women know nothing of sports.

    Fuck that bullshit! I'm never drinking Bud Lite again.
  • Moliere
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    Hey, me either.

    Let's cancel them. But for this other reason, that will surely be easy to convince people of with a meme.
  • T Clark
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    See, you should have known better. You idiot. You bloody idiot.Baden

    I guess I assumed this is what your internal monologue is always saying.
  • Noble Dust
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    I cancelled Bud Lite out of my life all the way back in college. Normal Budweiser, however, is my go-to shitty beer.
  • Moliere
    3.1k
    A person of true caliber. Not the lite, but the King of Beers.
  • praxis
    5.9k


    My personal assistant did all the legwork. :blush:
  • T Clark
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    According to the CDC, in 2021, the life expectancy in the U.S. for women was 79.1 years, and for men, 73.2 years, a difference of almost 6 years, the largest gap in more than a quarter century... In fact, the risk of death at every age, infancy, childhood, adolescence, middle age, and old age is higher for males than females. More men than women die of heart disease, diabetes, cancer, suicide, COVID-19, and car accidents.
  • Hanover
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    Miller High Life calls itself the champagne of beers, so France won't let it in because it violates their trademark rules.

    Their loss. It is one fine brew. Said no one ever.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxbusiness.com/markets/frances-guardians-of-champagne-destroy-2300-cans-of-miller-high-life-the-champagne-of-beers.amp

    I once owned a Mercedes. It was the Cadillac of cars.
  • Baden
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    :lol:



    Ah... got it.
  • Jamal
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    Rehoboth Beach DelawareT Clark

    Looking a bit better already:

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    They therefore had to jam their bread on their erect and handsomely circumcised Yiddishe schlongs, thus creating the first ancient bagel.

    Fun fact: the white spread was not originally cream cheese.
    Hanover

    Penis-mounted bread is not funny or clever.
  • Hanover
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    I agree that Bud Lite isn't really beer, but why is it a lading brand?BC

    Most Bud Lite is consumed in red solo cups either at baseball games or frat parties, and it has the abililty to pick up the plastic taste from the cup perfectly. Sometimes I'll enjoy a Bud Lite that way to remind me of you my younger days, standing by the keg, pumping that little pump thing, and enjoying me a cold one.
  • Hanover
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    Penis-mounted bread is not funny or clever.Jamal

    Only with this brutal joke evaluation honesty will I be able to up to my game. Thank you so much for this.

    This saved me from embarrassing myself with my next set of jokes, which was going to include a description of an act of intercourse with a bagel strategically placed so as to offer a poppy seed coated cushion between the lustful partners. I will forego that joke as it too would be neither funny nor clever, my two criteria for success.

    Again, thank you so much for this, with an emphasis on the "so."
  • Hanover
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    I think this Miley Cyrus video rocks. I think I love her as well, but she looks like she probably smells of sweat and weed whereas I typically prefer lavender scents. Other than that, did you guys know that she can really sing?
  • T Clark
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    Miller High Life calls itself the champagne of beersHanover

    When I was young, it was The Champagne of Bottled Beers, not to be confused with Schlitz which was The Beer that Made Milwaukee Famous.

    Which brings to mind:



    I really do love country music.
  • T Clark
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    Looking a bit better already:Jamal

    Thanks for sharing my obsession with Rehoboth Beach. This would normally a big weekend there, but it's been very cool—60s. It's only supposed to get into the 60s all weekend. A beach at 60 degrees is a pretty cold place.
  • Hanover
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    I played little league at Rehoboth Church when I was a kid. I played left field, which is where they let the free thinkers play, unencumbered by the mundane problems that might be happening closer to where things were actually happening.
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