No problem :up:

Excellent! skips 5 pages of unread presumed vitriol and nonsense and the only post on the page is

No problem :up: — Jamal

God does love me after all.

I received a letter from the Ministry of Inclusion and Social Security and it says: Dear Javier, we have checked in our data base that you are already 26 years old. We communicate to you that you will no longer be a benefited from pharmaceutical costs. From now on, you will be part of the adult regime. Go to your local social security office and update your sanitary card bla bla bla...

It is the first time I have experienced a loss in guarantees and benefits because I am becoming an "adult". :chin:

It was mostly about pizza and saving little birds. Also, I am stuck in Wrexham, quite often in the toilets of the High St. KFC. No vitriol. We accept our fate, little birds, pizza, and wanderers all.

Wrexham? That's less than 2 days march from my place, why not pop in for a jar?

There are no signs to show me out. They all just point to somewhere else in Wrexham. Although a gentleman who claims to be my wife insists I am actually in Coventry, which is an entire country away. But thank you for the invite! When I find my way back from metaphor to reality I might take you up on it. :halo:

There are no signs to show me out. They all just point to somewhere else in Wrexham. Although a gentleman who claims to be my wife insists I am actually in Coventry, which is an entire country away. But thank you for the invite! When I find my way back from metaphor to reality I might take you up on it. :halo: — Baden

You need a metaphorical GPS.

:100:

I have a question.
Who is the woman in philosophy forum's logo??I mean is it a painting?Is she a famous person that i ignore?Is she a pic randomly taken by the internet?Is she even an actual person that exists/existed or just fictional?
And second.Who picked her? Who made the decision to make her a logo here?

That's the philosopher and mathematician Hypatia.

More details about the decision here: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/49/icon-for-the-site/p1

I think it would demonstrate true wokeness if it were updated to Dylan Mulvaney.

More details about the decision here: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/49/icon-for-the-site/p1 — Jamal

That thread is a treasure. It was the first time I saw it, and it has been worthy to read.

Who is the woman in philosophy forum's logo?? — dimosthenis9

I thought in Theodora, the Byzantine empress when I looked at the icon.

I think it would demonstrate true wokeness if it were updated to Dylan Mulvaney. — praxis

Perhaps I'll start a thread - What is the correct ethical position on Bud Lite?

I didn’t know about this flap. Revived a zombie thread to discuss.
I have a shelter in case the discussion goes nuclear lol.

Closed. Please choose a more recent discussion on this topic to comment on, thanks.

I didn’t know about this flap. Revived a zombie thread to discuss.
I have a shelter in case the discussion goes nuclear lol. — 0 thru 9

I'm a bit embarrassed to say I drink Bud Lite. Lighter beers are the only ones my stomach can handle these days. I try to keep my consumption of alcohol away from politics.

"About 15% of the earth's animal biomass is ants," he thought as he watched them scurrying feverishly around the flower pot with babies in their arms, recent victims of a deluge that they very well might remember two days from now, which is probably a thousand years in ant history.

He'd left the hose in the flower pot longer than he intended, coming back to find the cataclysm which had engulfed the ant colony living in the pot. Some people speculate that ants and bees are emerging super organisms with the queen serving as their reproductive organs. Maybe someday these giant conglomerates of individual ants will become conscious and discuss with one another whether the little individual "cells" that make up their bodies have any sort of consciousness, some scoffing at the ludicrousness of the idea.

Sometimes one will come down with a tetrapod infection and have to take antibiotics to wipe out the population of destructive humans or what have you. Down in the tiny world, the humans discuss with one another if the ant colonies around them are already conscious, and suffering from the destruction random gardeners wreak upon them, others scoffing at the ludicrousness of the idea.

Plausible. Though I think Al will F us first.

Discourse with AI is death.

:fire:

Closed. Please choose a more recent discussion on this topic to comment on, thanks. — Baden

:up: Ok thanks. Started a new thread.

Breakfast: a pumpernickel bagel from my freezer stash of bagels I get for free from the place next to my job. Toasted with cream cheese, of course.

I wonder if bagels are a thing in Europe. :chin: I suppose they're from Northern European Jews.

wonder if bagels are a thing in Europe. :chin: I suppose they're from Northern European Jews. — Noble Dust

You've asked a question within my expertise, so let me help you out.

When the Jews were freed from Egypt, they had to leave in a hurry and were unable to get all their bread out in time. They therefore had to jam their bread on their erect and handsomely circumcised Yiddishe schlongs, thus creating the first ancient bagel.

Fun fact: the white spread was not originally cream cheese.

What is the correct ethical position on Bud Lite? — T Clark

You mean whether to boycott or not? First things first. To start off on solid ground we need to first study the origins of boycotting. A little research has shown that it originated with a boy who once protested on a cott (antiquated spelling), hence the term boy-cott.

This is the story...



In the dark and claustrophobic alleys of a bustling city, there lived a peculiar boy named Melvin. Melvin was an introspective and idealistic soul who viewed the world through a lens of profound dissatisfaction. He harbored an unwavering belief that society was veering toward an abyss of greed and injustice. This perception gnawed at his spirit and urged him to take a stand against the oppressive forces he perceived in his midst.

Melvin lived in a small, dilapidated apartment with peeling wallpaper and a leaking ceiling. The rent for this meager dwelling was exorbitant, rendering him perpetually impoverished and beholden to a merciless landlord named Mr. Bogart. The injustices he witnessed firsthand within his living space and the city at large tormented his restless mind.

One fateful evening, as Melvin lay on his threadbare cot, tossing and turning, a thought pierced his weary consciousness. He sat upright, his eyes wide with determination. Melvin had an epiphany—an idea that was both audacious and unconventional. He would stage a protest against the exorbitant rents that tormented the lives of countless individuals like himself.

With fervor coursing through his veins, Melvin embarked on his quixotic mission. He scoured the city for the perfect location to stage his protest, eventually settling on the town square—a place where the cacophony of life mingled with the echoes of societal grievances.

As dawn broke, Melvin arrived at the town square with a simple wooden cot and small podium to stand on. He carefully positioned it amidst the bustling crowd, drawing curious glances from passersby. On the sheet, he scrawled in bold letters, "Against the Exploitation of Shelter!"

Melvin climbed onto the cot, settling himself in its narrow confines. He assumed a solemn, meditative posture, his face a mask of determined rebellion. The crowd watched in bewildered anticipation, unsure of what to make of this peculiar display.

News of Melvin's protest spread like wildfire throughout the city. Soon, journalists and photographers swarmed around him, eager to capture the essence of his unique resistance. Melvin became an enigmatic figure, his protest a symbol of dissent against an oppressive system.

Days turned into weeks, and still, Melvin remained steadfast in his symbolic act of defiance. The citizens, once bemused by his audacity, gradually began to reflect on the truth he sought to unveil. Conversations buzzed with discontent as his message took root in the hearts of the oppressed.

Yet, Melvin's protest came at a personal cost. He faced scorn and ridicule from those who dismissed his act as futile and naive. His nights grew colder, his body weakened by the elements, but his resolve only grew stronger. His protest became an act of martyrdom, transcending his individuality to represent the collective suffering of the dispossessed.

As Melvin's protest gained traction, a sense of unease permeated the city's corridors of power. The landlords grew wary, fearing the erosion of their unscrupulous control. They convened secret meetings, seeking ways to quell the swelling discontent before it threatened their status quo.

One evening, as Melvin lay on his cot, the city's ruling elite decided to take action. In the cover of night, a group of men employed by Mr. Bogart seized Melvin and his cot, carrying him away to an undisclosed location. His silent resistance had become too potent a symbol of dissent, too powerful a rallying cry for change.

Melvin was imprisoned in a stark, windowless room. The once-determined fire in his eyes flickered, replaced by a profound weariness. The oppressive walls seemed to mirror the very system he sought to defy. But even in this desolate captivity, Melvin's spirit remained unbroken. His protest had ignited a spark in the hearts of the people, and that flame could not be extinguished so easily.

Although the city remained in the clutches of exploitation and injustice, Melvin's legacy endured. His act of sleeping on a cot became a rallying cry for those who yearned for a more equitable society. The seed of discontent he planted blossomed into a movement that could not be silenced. The struggle continued, fueled by the unyielding spirit of a boy named Melvin, whose solitary act of resistance transcended the boundaries of time and place.

You're so helpful.

We deleted that as there are plenty of recent threads on this issue. The news article doesn't really merit a new discussion (not that it's not interesting).

This is the story... — praxis

I hope you won't be offended if I am skeptical.

Perhaps I'll start a thread - What is the correct ethical position on Bud Lite? — T Clark

In an effort to expand their market, and without realizing that there were actually people that openly disagreed with expansive transsexual rights, they thought it a simple idea to appeal to that community in the hopes of gaining even more market share, however slight.

What they didn't realize is that the world didn't agree with them. It's the danger of living in the echo chamber.

I know this doesn't answer your question. But since you didn't specifically ask whether the boycott of Bud Lite was ethical, but you only asked the more general question of what the correct ethical position of Bud Lite was, I'll interpret that question in a way that I'd like in order to respond.

I would say that one who has a fiduciary duty to the shareholders of a stock company must do that which in the best interest of that company, which may or may not include doing what is best for societal progress. I therefore ask whether the Bud Lite decision makers were ethical, which is how I choose to interpret your question, and I say they were not. They entered a fray that had nothing to do with beer consumption, never having been asked to take a position one way or the other, and decided to take a position that ran counter to their customers' positions, and that cost the company dearly. There was a loss of marketshare, a loss in stock value, and devaluation of the company they were supposed uphold.

I'd say that Bud Lite unethically handled their marketing by moralizing upon an issue unrelated to their business enterprise instead of thinking first about their company. I might think differently if Bud Lite had been forced to weigh in on this issue, but they were not.

It's akin to a pet peeve of mine and that's when those who have a mic in front of them think that because I can hear their voice, I must listen to them opine on all sorts of subjects, as if their opinion matters to me. If you are a musician, for example, I don't care about your political views. I sit before you to hear you sing, not to tell me what you would do if you were king of the world. Shut up and sing I say.

Apparently I've lead people astray. I was making one of my typical smart-ass remarks and people have taken it seriously. That being said, I agree with everything you've written here.

What did they opine on? I thought they just got a trans celeb to promote their beer?