• ExistenceofSelf
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    **** The Resolve for the Concept of Clones ****

    There is a tremendous amount of information to this. I will keep it short and simplified.

    When a clone is created, information has to divide in order to compensate for two of the same individuals existing at the same time. The clone is another individual in existence or another "soul" is how humans say.

    Information processes in automated computation for action of expression. If the environment was 100% symmetrical, it would take much longer for the two individuals to start expressing differently from each other.

    Two concepts that are universally constant are dominant and recessive. The original construct of information is technically a dominate or the "first." In order for this to happen, the individual had to break away from its own automation of copy past to formulate and develop actions of expression that are different than the template the individual came from.

    The hierarchy of clones is set as this, first is dominate, second is recessive/dominate, third is first recessive, then second recessive, etc... with infinite. If the dominate dies and a clone is created, the dominate manifests. If you reach the 100th recessive, then that means the other 99 are still alive.

    Technically all humans are recessive. Humans is an example of how a recessive becomes its own dominate.

    Example of symmetrical action: Two clones lay on tables equally apart from each other. The entire room is symmetrical. No matter what any of the two are looking at, they get the same perspective of experience in environment. It is a type of controlled experiment.
    The two clones suddenly open their eyes at the same time. Are processing the same thoughts. They sit up at the same time. Look at each other at the same time. It would feel like you were being mimicked.

    Eventually the two start creating different actions of expressions from each other due to environmental circumstances of influence. Atoms, and particles are an example. Eventually, the two clones even though they think and act similarly, their expressions of action are different enough that they could be considered now as two different individuals in experience.

    The longer and farther apart both clones are from each other in experience, the more different they will become from each other as a result. This is how isolated information becomes liberated.

    Constructive professional thoughts are welcome.

    All content and Formulation of concept done by: Lloyd R Shisler
  • Outlander
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    It's an interesting concept. Assuming if two people could somehow be exactly the same down to every atom in their body (or maybe not that far but as far as mental and physical 'configurations' go) .. it wouldn't matter which one goes through what upbringing as either would have been, turned into rather, the same person regardless. Bearing in mind twins are not clones, it's.. kind of a back burner topic.

    I suppose to put it simply if you have two toy cars that are identical and built to the exact same specification and put them side by side, obviously they will mimic each other in locomotion. Of course, people are not toy cars, they're people so even slight seemingly infinitesimal differences in environment can snowball, forming entirely distinct personalities. If they both have a "strong side", it's reversed when facing one another. People often play games, take chances, risks, etc. Naturally differences and deviations will occur.

    Beyond that, genetics are major risk factors for diseases or other abnormal changes in homeostasis, they are not stone guidelines for what will happen and when. It's random. Right? The second clone will not automatically have a heart attack if the first clone just so happens to at this 'first moment' of awakening before differences can be made.

    What your describing is not an infant mind but a 'snapshot' of an adult or at least child's mind who knows how to walk, talk, make decisions, etc. Your question (or assertion) is if a person volunteers for cloning and the two resulting clones are laid on a table like you said and 'awaken', would they (assuming the 'snapshot' mind factor meaning they or them whatever know they have just been cloned) respond the exact same way? Sounds like a fun test. Unethical, but fun. The answer is simple though, of course not. People like to be unique so if one clone sees one doing something he'll do something else. It's human nature.

    I hope you don't think these are destructive unprofessional thoughts !!!!!!!!! lol
  • InPitzotl
    880
    Eventually, the two clones even though they think and act similarly, their expressions of action are different enough that they could be considered now as two different individuals in experience.ExistenceofSelf
    Nonsense. As soon as there are two of them, they can be considered two individuals. The fact that you count them and count to two ipso facto means there are distinct bodies. Assuming they're oriented as such, north body isn't "hearing" south body's thoughts, nor vice versa, and if they happen to be the same due to symmetry, then they just happen to be the same. Similarity is not identity; else you would just be counting to one.
  • Pop
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    Example of symmetrical action: Two clones lay on tables equally apart from each other. The entire room is symmetrical. No matter what any of the two are looking at, they get the same perspective of experience in environment.ExistenceofSelf

    Nevertheless they each have their own space and time, according to relativity. So their total information is not identical.
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