the only trinity i know is a term to describe a trio of family parts.

There are plenty, there is nothing significant about the Christian trinity bar it claims mother and father, and how important family are - problem is it's associated with God, rather than directly family.

Art, in my opinion, is a term used to credit someone's creative skill through some agent, plus interest. Genesis of universe could be considered an art. It is not, generally, any painting, any drawing, only good paintings, etc.

Yes, then 'art' is a short lasting, ephemeral term; lasting appeal of a piece is down to interest keeping art hype alive. See what I'm getting at?

Art is more the hanging on wall phase of some creative work: rather than the process.


It takes a keen eye to know how to respond to this question.

a triceritops who's colour changes to repent other predators.

Deja vu

Art can be a message, or just pure entertainment; it can ward off enemies (such as with martial art).

Art doesn't have to be one piece; it can be a collection of pieces, or a universe.

It's about interest.

If you intended to send a message, and gained a lot of interest for that reason, some able judge may determine your painting is art. If you never have interest from an able judge, you'll never know the art factor.

Some art remains locked away in people's minds, maybe sharing the person's interest or third party energies.

Morality can be subjective or objective.

Objective, in the case of Earth. There's a right way to take care of a plant, and to the Earthbound objective, this may be beneficent.(good).

Subjective, in the case of myself getting food would be good for me, but there's no middle ground.

We all follow the state's morality, meaning that our objective is someone's subjective morality, which is ok, if that leader is wise (which it isn't).

Image of: man with burden climbing hill.

The man is climbing the hill and carrying its burden for:
A) Objective
B) Subjective
C) The States Subjective

It's good for the planet if we produce more green energy and reduce other energy to nil.

Whether this is ultimately good is beyond the question, it's just good for the planet and it's an objective we, as Earth inhabitants, effect.

They do lots of work, good they will be rewarded, they put on a robe, turban, and cite religion, surely a stupidity that will be punished.

No it's his body double. No it's a look-a-like. Yes, it's him. The former is more probable.

Art and objective morality.

Does the human objective effect what is art?

Whoever suggested 'agent', bravo, you have a nice eye. I think explaining art, defining things in general, is an art. So I express myself, through some agent, at a high enough quality, and it is considered art. Or could I force my art with quantity? either way, Quality or reality of art is a important aspect of all art, if it's bad quality, generally it's a 'ah' , without the 'rut'. Quality seems to be important, are you even qualified enough to judge what's art and what's not?

T'was four months ago I rekindled this subject from whatever grave it was in before, I regret it. There is will, a more proper subject for this forum, and free will a spook topic.

Some parts of life resemble free will, and some parts don't.

haha I used to like diseases but I don't think they're liked, they're frowned upon up there!

It's a pity they do exist, but I suppose a lot of them are beneficent.

Anyway, to the point, diseases likely are or aren't part of the plan. They may be liked or just sin spawn off such a big event as is this universe. I can't tell.

Evil and diseases may or may not be synonymous, but evil tends to act like a harmful disease, yes.

the label is used to signify what is and what isn't srt. It's a complement to a agent. Let's say I think the Mona Lisa is art ( expression through an agent), but i don't think my drawing is art. Here's an analogy, martial art is art when the moves are done correctly, if all moves miss, it's not art.

Make the distinction between normal creativity and art.

It depends, I like the definition inclusive of 'agent,' however I also agree it should be undefined and that it doesn't only apply to humans.

I understand the original post and some posts that follow are unclear but I explained it clearly three posts back!

I agree with you, art sends a message.

yes they do to operate properly in the body but beyond that they do create a link like a processor and harddrive.

Heart and Brain create an active bond I have labelled 'spirit', spirit is maintained by body in world/universe.

I think consciousness is maintained by our heart and brain working FOR life in the universe; all I'm saying is the product of consciousness isn't internal only but also external. Conscious beings can thank the universe as well as their heart and brain for the current phenomenon.

think of all the movement happening beyond us... The world spinning, etc. All of it maintains a state where our heart and brain can create consciousness.

You're conscious because of heart and brain with universe or as I said before local life support.

The heart beats to the local life support, end of story.(If you leave the local life support you take parts of it with you or find anew lest you die).

I have explained In a future post.

you'll need good computer mechanics, so you need to improve your memory and focus, forethought and balance, instinct and judgement.

I'm suggesting experience is of mind not as mind.

And if we're looking for a definite answer to what the spirit is, it happened in the womb stage; an event that metaphorically, is encircling you.

Therefore, you can only trace experience to find a definite state of existence, of the encircling power(that was generated by an event in the womb).

In all honestly I was having a crack at a hard problem.

I'm currently thinking deeply about this subject, and will improve on it. However, let me simplify what I think...

Cohesive energy, or universal energy, is, at least, present.

What's it like living next to so much energy?

(I'm implying we're always 'alerted' by the present cohesive energy; which, the image of this concept in mind, is the idea I'm suggesting about 'conscious energy').

And..

Surely Earth's rotation creates an encircling energy field, like that wheels on moving car apparently moving in reverse?

I don't think I'm wrong, but I understand I'm a little unclear; I don't look at these words and think I understand - I'm intrigued by my own idea factory - hopeful.

I don't think energy is live, but live species may exist in energy.

can we only find a trace of a form of experience which would be the proper term for the root of experience? Like we're trapped in our vessel by an event that keeps encircling us, so the original force is now only traceable.

It's likely sexual energy is the intelligence of sperm, so to speak, and it's how babies form, static created by sperm species in the womb mechanism.

I'm saying energy is more than another consciousness, it is like a super-consciousness or consciousness prerequisite that can generate temporary conscious spirits in any space including mind space because it is you, everything you do can be degraded by a higher energy frequency.

Degraded by higher energy means that, per say, the view of your face from any angle. Energy has you at all other angles and distances from each angle - and more, potentially.

I would ask, does Earth create a field of energy?

What is vision if not a mind imprint on the atomic?

You could think of visual energy as advanced rippling from focal points, so when you imagine your face from angle, energy reacts to suppress the new image.

You would limit your ego to freedom, and embrace greater wisdom.

In a way we are made out of the substance that all things are made of (even Gods, metaphorically, but I don't believe in God).

Isn't energy higher universe matter that is created out of massive tensions?

Mirrors are a great phenomenon, to mirror a 4D object takes a lot of power. Yeah, I guess you're right, for now.

is there justification in birth? Would you not automatically consider it unjust?

I meant that it's much more powerful than humans, I don't know if double, triple or if it's maximum above us in power.

Let's say you imagine your face from the front, then 0.1cm more away from your face, and proceeding to move further and further away. I predict energy fulfils every angle from any distance at the same time because of its dominant presence in the universe.

another song.

He is I think the best known artist.

Let's not forget lyrical genius. Style of voice (controversial, new, unqiue, fun?), and centralization.

Though I say the song is only good at the start here not like no others.

but he is also good at his art.

Are you suggesting we get lost in music rather than interpret it for what it is?

Call it my eye of perfection but some art is greater.

yes I am, and screaming (like a stroke of singing).

yeah he sounds good at screaming!

Whitney Houston, Elton John

Try this song I think is good:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TlV1TkA2S3E

Not only that but it is one case of if.

In arts, aptitude with chosen tool. A good singer is able to hold notes for longer or hit higher or lower pitches; is noteworthy skill (aptitude of vocals). In a painting, it's aptitude of brush, which is directly, 'stroke'. Paintings are greater the greater, or sometimes luckier, one's stroke is. This requires careful observation.

Some arts may be lucky splashes of paint on paper because it has new style about it; but in asking the artist to redo the picture he/she may become stuck. This makes the artist lucky but his/her art may become popular.

There is skill and performance in art.

A ruleset I think is: how much skill does the artist have based on his/her work scaled.with how much work was done, is it new? This would constitute to whether a good judge might consider it a good experience, not a minority because the majority is the only real judge of art appeal.

Art is truly a competition of things who want to showcase their artwork. In Martial Art you can win or lose, in Art, it is the same.

There's a lot of power involved in existence and sometimes risks are taken; such as by letting life arise on a planet, rather than in some simulate field.

I do not believe in God, but I believe in good and evil - evil tends to arise when risks are taken, or trust is expected.

the spirit of heart and brain experiences the mind and universe.

I could claim the quiddity of mind was me controlling it as it's part of the experience. When functioning the mind includes your experience of it, yes, but this is more a product of mind and body.

If we're discussing what mind is as an object (rawly) it's typically not our experience of mind but what we have determined mind to be. We do all experience mind but mind is not the spirit which experiences it, it's an object in the experience.

it depends if you are talking about mind rawly, or if you're talking about its quididity. Which is not the state of mind we assess when making the judgement of whether it is a computer or not.



I think it can be considered an organic computer. It's computation ability is far greater than any man made!