If Labour wins and Biden wins, then with Melenchon in France, the globalist establishment could be under real threat of being reworked. I’m interested to see what happens in France. Instead of the far-right taking over and simply ousting immigrants, the Popular Front “seems” primed to shake up the current. Anyone have an opinion?

I see where you’re coming from by attributing the over-emphasis of individual liberties and personal freedoms (in their contemporary forms) to Christianity. I also think that the Christian ethic helped allow for the one I described (to an extent), even though Christianity and hedonistic violence seem opposed.

As you mention, the tolerance of complete degeneracy and all encompassing sense of equality that result from excess liberalism - i.e. identity-politics - can also be said to have eroded the institutions, corrupted the establishment, democracy/republic.

This doesn’t exactly explain how an untouchable elite is capable of profiting off of the destruction of the democracy, although it points to an inverted link between power and degradation as you mention.

I understand what you mean. You seem to be coming from a Nietzschean perspective, colored somewhat by conservatism as a result of contact with the current age. However, Christianity, in my opinion, is only enough to describe the tendencies of the masses. The core ethic, which informs the masses but which is not formed by them, I think, is more obscure and derived from an older form of spirituality - one which would have been in a form of sinister aversion to the civilization of ancient Greece, especially to the democratic and intellectual freedoms of Athens. It is at once powerful and totalistic while remaining passive, relegated to the realm of spirituality and emotions. That’s why I mentioned Mesopotamia, pop-culture and music, because of how these notions are expressed with emotional backing or through libidinal processes.

The thesis is that a form of commodity value was placed on criminality as a behavior in the exchanges of financial institutions. Commodity value is typically associated with material objects.

what’s your question about this post?

You don’t seem to want to understand, I’m not surprised at all. I call it the establishment for a reason.

thank you these are all great suggestions - I’ve heard a lot about habermas through Zizek

To answer your question:

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Ownership seems to occur with certain advents and inventions throughout early history. This includes the invention of weaponry and the science of agriculture. Those with weapons were able to claim objects from those without. And the early scientists who developed agriculture and cattle raising were able to claim ownership of that land and sell its yield for further advancement in a hierarchy.

There would probably always exist some sentiment of favoring the smarter and stronger, but if this is a society of civilized people that is recovering from something like a nuclear war, then I think it could be possible.

You do realize that nation functions differently to this day?

they probably developed a structure gradually in the aftermath of the fall of the bourgeoisie

What I mean to say is that if the population of Russia’s working class proved to be inadequate for operating its industries, then I’m sure there were measures in place. I would assume more highly educated members of the party would be tasked to this. Contemporary Russia remains a descendant of these ideologies and it still has a lot of state owned enterprises.

I haven’t heard of this author, but there has been a Platonist element circulating contemporary philosophical writings for some time, even as far back as the pre-Brexit, pre-Trump era. It may have helped to cultivate ideas amongst the masses which led to those circumstances. Maybe Trump tapped into the collective conscious when those raiders stormed the capital building!

I wouldn’t take that comment too seriously - the one about communist managers.

The educated bureaucratic class could be employed to resolve any dysfunction caused by local management.

Better question is: do you think the republic would function any more equally than in western governments? Would the government be writer of amends or regulations that end up opposing the ideology of a publicly run economy?

Interesting

Maybe you just disagree. This entry is intended to highlight a cultural ethic which is communicated through industry and academics, describing also how the government’s functionality during this time period, disengaged and unreachable, allows for said ethic to effect the people, leaving them without significant recourse.

It’s also a type of comment on the status quo as I mentioned to Tom Storm.

Mr. Storm, what I mean to relay here is a sense of the status quo in politics. The fact that there are no wide-spanning movements to be named in opposition to the way that the government and economy relate is what I am pointing to. As someone who reads history, it looks as though generations from now, our age will be read as one with little to distinguish the people’s goals from that of the establishment - an establishment that employs little democratic structure in the face of unrestrained private interest. Of course there are movements here or there, but are they enough to make an impact? As you say there isn’t any unity.

Not exactly, however, I would go so far as to claim a distinctly European character to the ethos I describe in this post

Those sets of values are what I find to be most prominent in society. I’ll point out that the private sector definitely seems to instill a sense of tribalism through certain industries, mostly those concerned with poetry or art.

The government and the middle classes allow for that state of civilization, which is often corrupt or tyrannical, through disengagement. But I will admit that this is mostly a thought experiment, albeit one that I think has essential qualities of truth to it in the way it presents our age.

I believe the prevailing value set that runs through a society and even a time in history certainly can be said to have philosophical, ethical, and even mytho-spiritual roots. This is what I’ve come to conclude based primarily on first hand observation and research into anthropology and the arts.

I don’t know. I think there is a deliberate character to an age. You’re right that it’s often something about the weak vs. the powerful, but other than that, I’m not sure how much of this you related to…