ok — Jackson

Well, I'm not ok with it!

The double-edged truth.

Then why does the brain think about more than survival? — Jackson

Malfunction or...

divine objectivity — Gnomon

No wonder!

Brains are survival machines, not truth machines!

Then what is it that suffers? — Harry Hindu

And the good question award goes to none other than Harry Hindu!

@Art48, you make a lotta sense! Why all the complicated in-between stuff (life on Earth) when the outcome was already decided right from the get go? All that trouble we go through being/trying to be good, all the heartbreaking guilt we endure when we slip up, all that...for nuthin'!

It makes life on dear ol' Earth a farce, ethics is bogus, and God is an a**hole! :snicker:

I like where you're going with this! Please don't let me cramp your style. Proceed! I'm just gonna watch. :up:

I think the fact that you chose a social suffering is good because it raises a nice (for me) side issue. You say you know that you are an illusion. I would argue that if you knew (in the binary sense of know that I think is implicit here) that you were an illusion you would not suffer. But it's not binary, this knowing. You partially know. Or perhaps part of your brain/mind believes, but other parts do not know. And we do have examples of people who have trained themselves to 'get' this, being an illusion, in a more complete way and who do not suffer that kind of social pain. — Bylaw

You psychoanalyzed me señor! I'm most obliged.

Corruption. Politicians in the deep pockets of the fossil fuel industry; standing on the brink of an entirely new era, and too cowardly and self-serving to bring it about. Fuck them. If I shout loud enough maybe China will hear me; and then they'll have no choice. — karl stone

:ok:

Magma energy technology was proven viable by NASA 40 years ago - I've shown you proof of that. In that report, NASA claimed to be able to do thing KMT (iceland) say now they are unable to do. I've shown you proof of that. Now I'm saying that Quaise are drilling to unnecessary depths; twice as deep as the world's deepest hole, using a drill that cannot concievably exist. Are you saying that sounds at all like they're keen to develop this source of energy? Or are they throwing obstacles in the way? — karl stone

Most interesting. — Ms. Marple

How do you reconcile these two - that the tech was developed 4 decades ago by NASA and that KMT is lying about the tech they claim they possess?

Superb! A dilemma (accept evil OR embrace robothood) worth pondering upon!

Protagoras would've been proud, OP!

I offer a counterdilemma:

Free will OR No evil!

Having demonstrated your inability to comprehend what you read, may I suggest you go to bed before you become too stupid to write english words! — karl stone

No, no, he has a point!

"They" (conspiracy theory undertones, paranoia) are stalling! To what end, may I ask?

millimeter wave drilling technology — karl stone

Precisissimo!

I wasn't off-topic.

We must comply, unwillingly!

It makes little practical difference to my life which one is true. — Tom Storm

:snicker:

Do you imagine anyone will see my post now it's buried beneath a heap of your misunderstanding and regret? — karl stone

Confiteur, I misunderstood the following post by Karl stone.

If only mine were; you don't see it of course - but they're stalling. I mentioned earlier KMT cannot achieve what NASA reported they could do 40 years ago regarding locating magma deposits, materials survivability etc - and here Quaise want to drill using "millimeter wave drilling technology" to depths of 20km.

In Janurary 2020 - a paper reviewing experimental achievements in the development of high-power gyrotron oscillators wrote:

"The world record parameters of the European tube are as follows: 0.92 MW output power at 30-min pulse duration, 97.5% Gaussian mode purity, and 44% efficiency..."

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2020JIMTW..41....1T/abstract

Less that 2 years later this technology has been perfected, and is in the hands of a geothermal energy drilling start-up run by a former oil company executive? More astonishingly still they either imagine a machine slim enough to lower down a bore hole, that can operate in a high temperature environment, or that can be focused into a cutting beam at a distance of 20 km. In short, they have phasers worthy of the Starship Enterprise, and are using them for domestic purposes. Yeah, right! — karl stone

Apologies.

We should ask teachers & professors what a question is (re tests, quizzes, exams).

1. What is gravity? (interrogative)

2. Define gravity. (command)

3. Gravity is a _________ (fill in the blank)

4. Gravity is (MCQ)
a. A type of apple
b. Einstein's cat
c. A force
d. All of the above
e. None of the above

A question, as per Shannon Information Theory, is a conjunctive proposition (vide supra 4, MCQ).

I regret to inform you that you're contradicting yourself; you must be tired.

If some propositions weren't/aren't obvious then how do we explain the existence of the word "obvious"?

:chin:

If you're not interested in the subject could you leave me alone please. — karl stone

I'm experiencing a dopamine crisis! Apologies. Please carry on and also, very informative posts by you. I pray your efforts won't be wasted. Good luck!

Love? — karl stone

Sabrá Mandrake!

because they're either insufficiently evident (ágnôsis) or intrinsically undecidable  (epoché). — 180 Proof

:fire:

Reinventing the wheel works up a sweat! — ucarr

:snicker:

that can operate in a high temperature environment — karl stone

That's where they'll run into problems. Heat destroys - maintaining the structural integrity of equipment will be a major issue. Maybe all we need is the heat which, thankfully, can be harnessed at a safe distance from the magma. The idea is to access the heat but not puncture the magma chambers, a tightrope walk by all accounts.

we cannot doubt our (mental) existence. — Hello Human

We can doubt our (physical) existence. — Agent Smith

Interesting, oui, mon ami?

Most interesting. — Ms. Marple

Benefit of the doubt! That's all I can think of.

Merci beaucoup!

Otherwise, mediocrity will be the rule. — Wittgenstein

As the supply is low, and demand (for quality) is high, prices will shoot up, naturally; almost immediately a Hackliste will develop and consolidate itself.

What's wrong with mediocrity?

The Mediocrity Principle:

1. The Copernican revolution: Earth ain't special.
2. The Darwinian revolution: Humans ain't special.
3. The Freudian revolution: The mind ain't special.
4. The Galactic revolution: The Milky Way ain't special.
5. The Multiverse revolution: The universe ain't special.

Don't be rude.
— Jackson

I'm sorry, I can try again.

Your claim is false and a lie. — Streetlight

:snicker:

Muchas gracias señor!

There's a lot of historical context to philosophies, and Buddhism is no exception, without which it would be nigh impossible to get a handle on 'em. I'm, unfortunately, not well-informed on history and it shows I suppose.

Anyway, I regret to inform you that it isn't clear, still, as to how Nagarjuna's tetralemma is related to ethics. What was, for example, the response from Hindu Brahmins to the tetralemma? From the little that I know, according to some sources, Buddhists lost the debate against the Hindus, thus explaining the decline of Buddhism in India.

Which you nevertheless manage not to see, somehow. — Wayfarer

Well, how are they - Nagarjuna's tetralemma & ethics - connected?

Very interesting points you raise here Wayfarer.

What does Nagarjuna's tetralemma have to do with ethics? Buddhist ethics, as far as I know, is a blend of Kantian (deontological) & Benthamian (utilitarian) ethics (a white lie is ok but it still is a lie).

Ignorance, in my humble opinion, plays a big role in Buddhism - according to some sources Pyrrrho the skeptic basically copy-pasted Nagarjuna's tetralemma onto skepticism.

There are two reasons for an education:

1. To gain wisdom, to be a good person, to lead the good life.

2. To make money.

No prizes for guessing what modern education is aimed at! 2 and not 1.

Perhaps 1 is considered the domain of parents &family for reasons such as not wanting to impose or promote any particular religion and its ethics.

However, all religions can be made part of a school curriculum to avoid bias. Will that compromise the other subjects time-wise and/or overburden children or the educational system?

A tiny meteoroid struck the newly deployed James Webb Space Telescope in May, knocking one of its gold-plated mirrors out of alignment but not changing the orbiting observatory's schedule to become fully operational shortly, NASA said on Wednesday.

Most unfortunate! :groan:

I hope the JWST team had anticipated such eventualities i.e. the gold mirrors can self-correct and restore the proper alignment.

:up: My fears then were unfounded!

Oh I think we do. — igjugarjuk

:lol: :up:

Brandom likes to talk about taking true and making true, belief and action. — igjugarjuk

:fire:

Smith You seem to think that the Buddha and his followers are or should be Renaissance men (and that their outlook is or should be scientific materialism). — baker

I was told the middle path doesn't take sides. A cornerstone idea of Buddhism is that all propsitions are undecidable and hence epoché (suspension of judgment); there are some wrinkles that need our attention but that's a topic for another discussion.

If you say Peter Hayden Dinklage is greater than Michael Jordan, it can't be based on height.

Epistemic responsibility & ethics of belief!

Our task has always been, is, always will be to make the true (verum/satyam) synonymous with the good (bonum/shivam) and the good synonymous with the beautiful (pulchrum/sundaram). Presently, it ain't so - the 3 transcendentalia seem to be quite independent of each other and hence dukkha (dissatisfaction).

Good call OP!

We're all guilty of thought crime, the vast majority of hate speech, and only a minority of crime crime.